how should the bay area deal with homelessness?

Orion / Cust. Srv. 🌹♟🗡
Sep 7 91 Comments

the housing crisis has resulted in visible
homelessness. blind, how should homelessness be resolved?

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  • Apple picheswar
    Recession to wipe out tech industry and reduce housing prices. The fact that more people on Blind voted for purge the homeless rather than house them shows how morally bankrupt and entitled tech folks are.
    Sep 7 11
    • Amazon 🤠==8
      Zoning? Then change the zoning rules.
      Sep 7
    • Lyft done2
      You people are just blaming other people are so sad. So indicative of the modern left.
      Sep 8
    • Amazon / Eng
      weeeeeeee

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      “Tech and finance people...”

      That would match us.
      Sep 8
    • Lyft done2
      In the sense that by and large tech and everyone else in the Bay Area have put liberals in charge for 60 years then yes we are to blame. And we get the government and the policies in the implications that we deserve.
      Sep 8
    • Amazon / Eng
      weeeeeeee

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      True.
      Sep 8
  • Apple dfYT76
    All of us very spoilt, very lucky tech folks should be contributing money and time to help the less fortunate.
    Sep 7 22
    • Uber uZ9mM
      If my kid becomes a drug addict, I’ll help them out, because they’re my kid. If someone else’s kid becomes a drug addict, that’s their problem.
      Sep 8
    • Orion / Cust. Srv. 🌹♟🗡
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      Weeeeee what you’re arguing is basically that if people fail to conform for whatever reason no one should help them. It makes for a disgusting society.
      Sep 8
    • Amazon / Eng
      weeeeeeee

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      Yes, I’m advocating for personal responsibility in 2019.

      Insane, I know.
      Sep 8
    • Orion / Cust. Srv. 🌹♟🗡
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      Personal responsibility is based on an idea of choice that is probably not correct. You say personal responsibility like it’s the ultimate argument. We live in an interdependent society though so we can never really be personally responsible for things, rather we are acting with the causes and conditions available to us, which are not simple or clear.
      Sep 8
    • Amazon / Eng
      weeeeeeee

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      What scenarios are you referring to where people have guns to their head forcing them to assault people, do drugs, vandalize and steal shit, have sex with random people leading to undesirable pregnancies.

      I’m not familiar these.
      Sep 8
  • Lyft done2
    You need to ask yourself what does SF in LA do differently than every other city in the US which has massively less homelessness?

    Most places in the world don’t allow people to abuse drugs and live on the street. They force them into treatment. we don’t do that.
    Sep 7 3
    • Amazon / Eng
      weeeeeeee

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      This.
      Sep 7
    • New FlXq26
      I'm from europe and this isn't true. Treatment is too expensive and you can't 'force' someone into this.
      Sep 8
    • Amazon / Eng
      weeeeeeee

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      Emphasis on “don’t allow”. The individuals don’t get a choice. They get warehoused until they can prove they’re not a menace to society, similar to what we do with people that break more traditional crimes (ala theft, assault, etc).
      Sep 8
  • New pkko62
    The same story is with poor 3rd world countries. This is capitalism - the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. Not seen how break this circle.
    Sep 7 4
    • Lyft done2
      I’ve never seen a 3rd world country with SF / la levels of homelessness
      Sep 7
    • Lyft done2
      None of our other capitalist cities have this homelessness levels.

      It must be something else....
      Sep 7
    • Darkstore grayworm
      D.R.U.G.S
      Sep 7
    • Apple
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      One-party rule
      Sep 7
  • Box luxlord
    First Better mental health support for the ones that need it. For ones that dont - Social safety net for people on temporary hard times. housing projects, detox and addiction programs and employment support for those that are capable. Tldr - Theres all sorts of reasons people are homeless for and we need to solve for each individually
    Sep 7 0
  • New
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    Yoe: 🦏 TC: 🐐 Still not serious about life ...
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    Subsidized leetcode premium.
    Sep 7 0
  • Twitter jkkugdyh
    Send them to Pelosi’s mansion
    Sep 7 0
  • Amazon / Eng SmkWdEvyDy
    For people that voted purge. Where to?
    Sep 7 9
    • Amazon / Eng
      weeeeeeee

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      Why not fly them to another state? Maybe Hawaii? Cover a one way flight?
      Sep 7
    • Microsoft / Eng cholical
      One way flight to the clouds
      Sep 7
    • Amazon brwl34
      Send them all to Alcatraz.
      Sep 7
    • Uber uZ9mM
      Incarcerate them in a compound outside SF. Have them separate recyclable and compostable garbage from landfill. 2 birds, 1 stone.
      Sep 7
    • Box
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      Reopen the mental hospitals and lock them up
      Sep 7
  • Cloudflare / Eng myimouto
    oh forgot to say repeal prop 13
    Sep 7 6
    • Cloudflare / Eng myimouto
      can you maybe consult a chart of housing production per capita in states that do vs don't have prop 13
      Sep 7
    • Lyft done2
      That’s not how causal inference works my friend
      Sep 7
    • Cloudflare / Eng myimouto
      learned today on blind that nothing is ever evidence of anything
      Sep 7
    • Cloudflare / Eng myimouto
      https://twitter.com/susie_c/status/914975600879611904 here's some evidence from which we should conclude that prop 13 (massive cash transfer to the rich) is good for the poor or whatever (????)
      Sep 7
    • New galo
      If you repeal prop 13 you'll make force a lot of longtime residents to sell because they won't be able to pay property taxes. But that's not going to help the homeless.
      Sep 8
  • MeridianLink / Product XVrn30
    Jail them. It's not like they are going to get jobs anyway. They like to have freedom to poop on the street and non accountibility
    Sep 7 0
  • Salesforce JINYANG
    Send them back
    Sep 7 0
  • Cloudflare / Eng myimouto
    bulldoze the richmond district and build housing
    Sep 7 0
  • ViaSat / Eng zag37
    Homelessness isn't the disease. It's the symptom.
    Sep 7 0
  • Uber uZ9mM
    Have a tax on rent, that landlords pay. Use it to fund programs for homeless SF residents. Purge migrant homeless.
    Sep 7 2
    • Cloudflare / Eng myimouto
      that's a tax on rent that tenants pay
      Sep 7
    • Uber uZ9mM
      (1) they can’t raise rent during the initial duration of a lease (2) if they raise it too much, folks won’t pay it.
      Sep 7
  • Zulily god11
    The problem with housing projects is that high rises might have one or two entrances. One gang might take over an entire highrise. It's far better to build a shanty town with well spaced shanties. One slum lord can't control all the shanties at once. Just put a big stack of waste lumber in the center of a big lot with some fire barrels.
    Sep 7 0
  • Uber uZ9mM
    Another way to address the issue, on a personal level, would be go and live somewhere else.

    San Francisco is a fun place to party, get high, and get laid. Perhaps this explains popular attitudes towards folks who fall foul of the downsides to these activities.

    A lot of people leave once the party’s over, and move elsewhere to places with less shit in the street and better schools.
    Sep 8 6
    • Uber uZ9mM
      You do realize that there are options other than living in the Bay Area, right? 🤦‍♂️
      Sep 8
    • Lyft done2
      No I don’t realize that. I can’t comprehend that thought. That’s a brilliant observation and contribution.

      Obviously California’s Endowed with incredible natural beauty and assets and weather. It’s a fucking damn shame what we’ve done to it
      Sep 8
    • Uber uZ9mM
      What’s your point? There are parts of California that aren’t ludicrously overpriced shit-holes, if you must remain in-state.
      Sep 8
    • Lyft done2
      Sorry for ranting, and you’re absolutely right, that’s my plan
      Sep 8
    • Uber uZ9mM
      👍
      Sep 8
  • Uber uZ9mM
    Have a tax on unoccupied homes, and use it for programs for homeless SF residents.
    Sep 7 3
    • Twitter jkkugdyh
      Then it’ll just be college students staying there like the do in Vancouver. Stupid idea
      Sep 7
    • Uber uZ9mM
      Great. Tax the rent too.
      Sep 7
    • Twitter jkkugdyh
      Taxation never solves anything. The reason for homelessness is not due to lack of tax revenue
      Sep 8
  • Amazon Freakstyle
    By encouraging people to move out
    Sep 7 1
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      They provide one way bus tickets already.
      Sep 8
  • Groupon / Eng sleepy
    Mental healthcare, that’s it.
    Sep 8 0
  • Oracle z3p0
    Get rid of excess jobs - those in excess of available housing.
    Sep 7 0