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is uber past its peak?

weak growth, weak earnings, hiring freeze and layoffs. is uber last its peak?

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Amazon l7sy2w Aug 8, 2019

Like Amazon started e-commerce, Uber started ride sharing. Uber along with Uber Eats are not going anywhere. Do you ever say "Let's take a Lyft" instead of "Let's Uber to that place". Establishing your company name as a commonly used verb amid competition is itself an achievement.

Google fdg Aug 8, 2019

Well there was a time when even Yahoo was a verb before Google came along.

Facebook Tremor Aug 8, 2019

The services aren’t differentiated and in many cases it’s the same driver on both platforms. I’ll go with whatever is cheaper/closer. This means price wars are inevitable

Google fdg Aug 8, 2019

Uber needs to find it's AWS fast.

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Porsche996 Aug 9, 2019

That's ship has sailed. Uber launches grocery delivery.

Orion 🌹♟🗡 Aug 8, 2019

Comparing Uber to amazon is ridiculous, amazon lost money to grow but could have turned on profitability any time. Uber is fundamentally unprofitable.

Google revert_bak Aug 9, 2019

Either rides have to get more expensive or drivers take an even bigger paycut.

Microsoft rbf Aug 9, 2019

And I'm not using Uber if they increase the prices.

LinkedIn yFSV61 Aug 8, 2019

I almost always find Lyft cheaper than Uber since past 4-5 months now. Uber will end up competing with Amazon with its Uber Freight. Uber Eats seems interesting, but I don't know how big that market is. Revenue growth is low compared to the huge expectations world has from this company and what Uber expects from itself.

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zkcU27 Aug 9, 2019

Uber is unprofitable because there is another competitor in it's primary market that is taking market share and racing it to the bottom in terms of prices. The thing is if that competitor is in a weaker position in terms of cash and monetizing users, Uber will ultimately win out and be able to raise prices to become profitable. Lyft is a fundamentally weaker business than Uber. Just look at their recent earnings report: - In Q2 2018, Lyft had losses from operations of $193 million on 15 million active riders. That translates to losses of ~$13 per user. Uber had losses from operations of $739 million on 76 million average monthly active users translating to losses of ~$10 per user. In fact, the Uber calculation is more conservative in terms of counting riders because it's an average of monthly active users whereas the Lyft number counts you as a rider if you ride anytime during the quarter. I'm using last year's quarter because this year's quarter was kind of messed up with Uber IPO losses realizing. - Uber has way more cash on hand. In fact it's cash on hand grew in the last 6 months while Lyft's decreased in the last 6 months. Both of these indicate that Uber's business is fundamentally stronger than Lyft and can sustain a price war longer and more efficiently because they have more money and are losing less per user (despite all the hoopla around Lyft "beating expectations" which is just b.s. because the company can set terribly low expectations which they do because Lyft gives quarterly outlook while Uber does not). I'm super biased ofc because I used to work at Uber and own Uber shares, but hey everyone can look at their public results and judge for themselves.

LinkedIn yFSV61 Aug 9, 2019

It is short sided thinking if you think Uber's only competitor is Lyft. Every small, big taxi company is also Uber's competitor. The moment it tries to flex its muscle in pricing, there will be a set of people who will choose to take the local taxis. I for one for sure. Next, Uber's another set of competitors are the railroad agencies, like, Caltrain and Bart who have ambitious plan to significantly improve the service and its reach. Next headwind is the changing ideologies towards remote work. Lots of companies are following a decentralized model where teams work remotely. Uber will lose lots of revenue as this headwind picks up steam. Next, carpool apps like Scoop, waze getting better and gaining more traction.

Google LyLs67 Aug 9, 2019

Lol at the silliness of this argument. Users in India and South America are way cheaper to acquire and keep in the platform.

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FlocciPaw Aug 9, 2019

Only self driving cars can save Uber. Have not looked at the details , but why is Uber losing so much money ? What’s eating it up ? Anybody analyzed this ? Is the reason too much TC ?

Orion 🌹♟🗡 Aug 9, 2019

Even self driving cars can’t. Who’s going to give them the 10s or billions of dollars to deploy a massive fleet of bleeding edge technology?

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FlocciPaw Aug 9, 2019

There’s SoftBank for all that shit. If they can pay Wework surely they can pay Uber

GE berry’s Aug 9, 2019

Just wait till November to expire lock out period. When employees sell, the stock will have to go to bottom 20s range

Microsoft Djokovic Aug 9, 2019

Really hoping the stock crashs before blackout window is done so that the years of arrogant Uber TC whores will meet their maker.

Uber TC || 👉 Aug 9, 2019

😭 ... We'll still make the bank 😂😂

Microsoft 特朗普 Aug 12, 2019

43 -> 37. I'm liking the trend 🥳