join an startup with 25% pay drop?

i am at Apple with 6 years of experience, only 1+ at apple. i am. ot a fan of apple’s culture. too much efforts in too many useless details. seems manager is so adapt to apple culture and assign huge amount of tasks that i truely feel borning and unnecessary. i got a job at a Lidar startup seems to be doing pretty good, with nice potentials. the position should be interesting and high visibility. current TC ~250k, benefit for both are quite similar for quit and join the startup: cons: 25% TC drop if the startup wont have bonus soon (they claim it will be implemented). much longer commute time, from 15 minutes==>70 minutes one way. instability of the job, anything could happen to the startup, who knows pro: potential growth is much faster. our org in Apple is saturated and wont have much opportunities. i see autonomous be the future with at least another 10-20 years development. Lidar could still be a critical sensor technology. more opportunities for my future career? maybe acquired or IPO within several years? then all would be worth it? depending on how mich the company worth. BTW, i am 30+ with family. thanks. any suggestions will be appreciated.

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Microsoft orki Sep 15, 2019

So velodyne

Intel “SWE” Sep 16, 2019

Yea must be. Not worth.

Apple AhaN10 OP Sep 16, 2019

You are here solely for gossip

Zynga parott Sep 15, 2019

No not worth it

Hulu TgKgh2897 Sep 15, 2019

Don't!!! Not a smart move. Look for bigger and better ops. Something better will come along. Having kids is not cheap.

Apple AhaN10 OP Sep 17, 2019

Thank you!

Google rQsc13 Sep 15, 2019

Transfer to a closer FAANG alternative if possible if you'd really about the move

Microsoft Raiders! Sep 15, 2019

Makes me like Apple products more. They obsess over shit

Pure Storage dhd63 Sep 15, 2019

That commute is bonkers, move closer or don't take the offer. https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/10/06/the-true-cost-of-commuting/

Marvell HCiH86 Sep 15, 2019

lidar is not a future of fully autonomous, computer vision is. Don’t go for velodyne, Better stay at apple or waiting for other opportunities.

Google UWOM24 Sep 16, 2019

Does your Spouse work?

Apple AhaN10 OP Sep 16, 2019

Yes

Google UWOM24 Sep 17, 2019

That may be a safety net you can rely on.

Veritas 13Jija Sep 16, 2019

70 minutes one way? Are you out of your mind?

Apple AhaN10 OP Sep 16, 2019

Probably....

Xilinx pMfv81 Sep 16, 2019

If you can take the risk and willing to trade off time with family, go do it for a couple of years. And only if your spouse has a stable job. Only reason to do it would be accelerated learning. If you are optimizing for compensation (IPO etc), do not!

Apple AhaN10 OP Sep 16, 2019

Thanks for the input