moving to the Bay Area? Should I?

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Jun 14, 2018 73 Comments

Current making TC 175k in San Diego.
Core team and with NXP just went through the company seems to get better?
If i move to the Bay? how much more money is worth it?

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  • Yahoo oooff
    I’d never advise moving from San Diego.
    Jun 14, 2018 5
    • Microsoft THAT-Guy
      SD is a good as it gets in CA. Safer, cheaper, more exposure to people who aren't in tech, far superior Mexican food, way better gender balance (if you're straight and single and that matters), much better proximity to LA and Mexico for getaways, and the best weather in the state. At any age / life stage, SD wins. And this comes from someone who spent 20 years in LA and SF.
      Jun 14, 2018
    • Intel Mirthy
      I would say if you are young and ambitious, don't start out working in SD in tech. Qualcomm was/is the only major game in town for tech and maybe Intuit and a recent small office of Amazon. Don't count the satellite offices of Huawei, Samsung that are there only because of Q, minor offices of Broadcom, Intel, and dead offices of Nokia, Sony. And don't get me started on the defense contractors. You are handicapping your TC from the start because of the lower cost geo. This is from someone who also lived and worked in SV, SD, LA, for at least 4 years each.

      If you are a family guy, by all means stay in SD if you still have a job with Q. The housing prices and shit schools here will make you cry.
      Jun 14, 2018
    • NAVEX Global HollaBackG
      I love SD but SF/Bay is where it’s at for our careers.
      Jun 15, 2018
    • Marvell USA 🇺🇸
      @mirthy: sounds like best scenario is a job working remotely for companies in the bay but living in SD.
      Aug 18, 2018
    • Yeah, probably the majority of the ex-Qualcomm SD now Intel management (Murthy and posse) still stash there families down in SD and probably go back in the weekend. Free flights for them. Not for the normal peon engineers have to relocate to the Bay.
      Aug 19, 2018
  • Proofpoint / Eng sillybean
    🌲fiddy.
    Jun 14, 2018 0
  • Qualcomm / Eng
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    a few people have left for Apple. Apple is not so generous these days and most of them gets a TC around 240k
    Not sure extra 50-60k will compensate for the move ?
    Jun 14, 2018 7
    • Intel Mirthy
      50-60k pre Fed tax... so really 30-36k post Fed tax. Almost all of that gets plowed into your increased housing (if you want comparable housing to SD) and food cost. Tack on worse traffic, entertainment and shopping options, and a sausage fest on a level similar to rural China and India.
      Jun 14, 2018
    • LinkedIn Pwhfdo
      Food cost isn't really noticeably different. Also rent will be maybe 1500-2000 more a month, so maybe 24k a year, so like 40k pre tax. The biggest issue is that you may not be able to buy a house. I'd consider it for like 100k more.
      Jun 15, 2018
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      to buy a home it seems i need dual quarter of a million incomes.
      Unless you are really good.
      I see G and A give TC 250k nowadays since their stocks are already up to the sky.
      Jun 15, 2018
    • Intel Mirthy
      If you are eating out, food cost is 10-20% higher. Quite a few $5 combo fast food items are $6 in the Bay. Biggest exception is Subway or if your are eating at Costco's food court - gotta save money somehow for that downpayment lol. Free food at places like Google is a big benefit. Not Apple, who charges an arm and a leg for meh food.
      Jun 15, 2018
    • Lazard fin/tech
      Refreshers at Apple though 👌
      Jun 16, 2018
  • Facebook Ruprecter
    Stay in SD unless you want to pay a minimum of 1.2M for a dumpy 930 sq ft 2/1 house in a shady area. I’ve worked at Google, Microsoft and now FB. I’m over the crazy imbalance of work over life, and all the super entitled tech douche bags with 1-2 years exp that think they know something. If you have a good thing in SD, stay there. The grass may seem greener here, but that’s because it’s artificial. San Diego is much nicer than this shit hole Bay Area.
    Jun 17, 2018 3
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      thanks, i have worked for 7 years and only made ~175k. 300k seems to be the standard low salary for people on Blind. Is this really true?
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Marvell SilentSun
      No. Most of us are 100-200k if not engineers and not at the FAANG companies.
      Jun 18, 2018
    • Illumina B4tg124
      Similar for me. Phd then 2yoe post degree. $170TC + $120TC (wife) in SD. Nice, new homes here (Carmel valley) are 2800sqft 1.2mm. If salaries can continue to grow in SD then maybe it truly is better off than SD. First post may be right with the 🌲50. I’d want a $160k base + 450k rsu + bonus in the bay to be worth it. Possible at FANG lvl 4/5?
      Aug 19, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Glued
    The Bay is a wasteland compared to SD and most other parts of Southern California. You should stay - you’re already getting like a ~$300k SF TC with what you’re making now
    Jun 14, 2018 2
    • Sony PSN
      You really think $175k in SD is like $300k in the Bay Area? Is it really 70% more expensive?
      Aug 18, 2018
    • Illumina B4tg124
      Yeah I don’t think that’s right either. $175k SD is more like $225 SF imo.
      Aug 18, 2018
  • Glooko / Other
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    The bright eyed folks itching to come to the Bay don't notice the jaded people looking to leave. Grass isn't always greener but everyone needs to learn through personal experience.
    Jun 14, 2018 0
  • New / Other HZ69
    Not worth it. I miss PB, the weather, and great Mexican food. I’m only back in the Bay bc my parents and in laws want to spend time with my baby. Forgot to mention traffic is horrible.
    Jun 14, 2018 0
  • Lyft TCHO
    Pay is not worth it. I would move to San Diego. Wanna switch? No one will notice
    Jun 14, 2018 2
    • Qualcomm cppgeek
      Have you been to San Diego before ?
      Jun 14, 2018
    • Lyft fbbound
      Yep I attended UCSD
      Jun 17, 2018
  • Yahoo Lord Vader
    Don't
    Jun 14, 2018 0
  • Qualcomm cppgeek
    What other options do we have between stuck at qualcomm for life (until they pay you off) or move to bay area to get competative salary? Any other cities with good tech traction ?
    Jun 14, 2018 3
    • Microsoft THAT-Guy
      Seattle, but sweet mother of donuts, anyone from San Diego will not want to live through the winters here. Or spring. Or really anything but June through early September, when it's the best place in the world
      Jun 14, 2018
    • Can confirm, miss the San Diego weather, but don't miss lackluster tech opportunities
      Jun 14, 2018
    • Qualcomm cppgeek
      I would prefer Boston over Seattle. Snow is fine, constant drizzling is not.
      Jun 14, 2018
  • Marvell SilentSun
    Stay unless you and wife both get 300K salary AND you are bringing a nanny with you.
    Jun 18, 2018 2
    • Qualcomm cppgeek
      Nanny's TC or GTFO
      Jun 18, 2018
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      if both of us make 300k each then there is no life , just work.
      Jun 18, 2018
  • Illumina Gt3niKb
    Ha. Considering the same move with similar TC. 175k SD -> 🌲fiddy SV not advised?!? I’m dying in my current role, so anything would be better IMO. Plus one could always return to SD after a SV resume boost / level up.
    Jun 14, 2018 2
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      how is Illumina compensation?
      Jun 14, 2018
    • Why are you dying at Illumina?
      Jun 14, 2018
  • Sony PSN
    Thanks for this thread. I always have the same debate, “would the Bay Area be better for my career / TC?” Seeing all the Bay Area salaries always tempts me but I forget how good we have it in SD and how there is a reason for those high salaries up north (Bay Area is expensive as fuck.)
    Aug 18, 2018 0
  • Adobe / Eng nullNvoid
    Run south🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️
    Jun 14, 2018 0
  • ServiceNow iYvd53
    Don't move
    Jun 14, 2018 0
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    one thing is all the 300k+ TC on blind taking into account the stock appreciation past 18 months. i wonder how long this run go.
    Jun 14, 2018 0
  • Illumina B4tg124
    3 bed rental in SD is ~$3000. 3 bed rental in bay is ~$6000. That’s $36000 net + tax =~ $55000 gross difference. So if you can make > $55000 in SF compared to SD then it is worth it no? All else is basically the same in terms of cost.
    Aug 18, 2018 2
    • Sony PSN
      $6k in the Bay Area is a nice 3 bedroom with decent schools?
      Aug 18, 2018
    • Illumina B4tg124
      $3000 for 3 bed in SD is not nice either. It’s a 1960s ranch that needs updating. 8/9 schools. The 10 schools are north of SD and homes are 1.2-1.8mm. (Big though 4/5 beds, 3000sqft).
      Aug 19, 2018
  • Facebook Ruprecter
    How much do you pay for rent or mortgage a month in SD?
    Jun 17, 2018 2
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      sdca1

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      2000$ (mortgage+insurance+tax)
      school rating is 8-8-9
      My home is around 650-700k.
      i bought it 5 years ago
      i checked out equivalent home in sunnyvale. Its like 1.5M :/
      Jun 17, 2018
    • Marvell SilentSun
      The house will sell for 100-300K over ask depending on a number of factors.
      Jun 18, 2018
  • Oracle qqin
    Don’t move. Not worth it.
    Jun 15, 2018 0
  • Marvell UI54321
    Apply to companies that support remote work / have distributed teams and stay.
    Jun 14, 2018 0

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