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pay off mortgage or invest (which would be safer)

Have 600k in cash/stock . should i pay off mortgage or invest it . i want to be safe, if a recession comes . 3.75 fixed mortgage -26 years left always made more than 8-10% on investments (index funds/ dividend stock picks)

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Roku cruella Oct 16, 2019

Depends on interest rate and how much u expect to make from investing. Math is simple.

Oracle investfool OP Oct 16, 2019

Added details and rephrased the question . Target is to be safe if a recession comes

Amazon takeiteazy Oct 16, 2019

Math is. Risk assessment isn’t.

Oath OPnd70 Oct 16, 2019

Why be responsible when you live only once? Party it up big time!

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pkbob Oct 16, 2019

I would save for cash for recession time. When assets that have underlying value go down time to buy them. Rest of the cash bring down the debt if you are goals are debt independence

IBM fFfd42 Oct 16, 2019

Agree with @cruella, with the only other exception being how much you hate being in debt. If it stresses you to have a mortgage, for whatever reason, and you would be able to live a happier more comfortable life without it, it might be worth it for you to do that even if the math is a little more favorable to keep investing/paying monthly.

Autodesk fomo! Oct 16, 2019

Since its all assumptions. What happens if the housing bubble crashes so much that, his home value falls below the mortgage owed(happened in 2008) Wouldnt it be best to let go of the house to banks and buy other cheap houses with the cash?

IBM fFfd42 Oct 16, 2019

I would say it depends on whether they would want/need to move in that situation. If they are at a stable company or location, then that drop in value would be temporary and also not having to pay a monthly mortgage means you have that extra money as cash flow. If they are very worried about a recession and being laid off and not being able to find new work in that area, then yeah... you’d want to remain liquid and easily movable... but you also probably shouldn’t have purchased a home

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SrZeroCool Oct 16, 2019

Cash is King in recession. If you pay off your mortgage, and your neighbors foreclose, your home value will drop

Oracle investfool OP Oct 16, 2019

That makes sense . So keep the mortgage and save cash this is the state I am in now.

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SrZeroCool Oct 16, 2019

Yes. Right now you have a really cheap loan and wont be able to borrow with the same interest rate in a recession. In a recession, it's better to rent because housing takes a hit but you offset that with a low rate. If you plan to stay there long term then you're good

Symantec gh4852z Oct 16, 2019

Invest it and use all gains to accelerate your mortgage pay down. Mortgage gets paid off faster (increasing equity, widening value/debt gap) and principal investment will still be there when mortgage is paid off.

Intel c8r20t Oct 16, 2019

How about you distribute your 600k and pay X of the house debt, keep Y in cash, invest Z in stocks. That way your mortgage payment (and total interest?) is significantly reduced for the remaining 26 years

Google eOFy64 Oct 16, 2019

Pretend you were to invest all of it in stocks and bonds, figure out the ratio you’re comfortable with. Take the money you would’ve invested in bonds and put it in your house, the 3.75 beats any bond. Rest in stocks and don’t touch it, cash liquidity is king.

Intel adbC65 Oct 16, 2019

Market is at the richest valuation in the last 140 years except for a few months in 1929. Do you itemize? That brings the effective rate down below 3%. If you don’t, no reason you couldn’t do a 50/50 split.

Oracle investfool OP Oct 16, 2019

I do itemize .

Lockheed Martin yyrts Oct 16, 2019

The impact of a recession on Bay Area restate is going to be devestating but then stop will investments. Keep your money under your parent's mattress?

Oracle investfool OP Oct 16, 2019

That’s what I have been doing so far . Keeping cash/ stable stocks but I was not sure if that’s a good medium/ long term strategy .

Cisco chuckR Oct 16, 2019

Refinance too. Your rate looks high.