It’s been less than a year and I am very sure that I will at least leave my team and probably the company. Who has done this? How rude are they about pocketing your final paycheck or clawback on signing and relocation bonuses? (I assume this can be avoided because they don’t want to slam the revolving door shut) Will giving less than two weeks notice blacklist me from the firm? #quitting #google #quttingGoogle Context: I have learned nothing since I have joined. I have an offer at a wonderful startup to do research-intensive work around very talented people. My interests are very much quantitative and I have limited development interests (albeit some). I’ve learned virtually nothing other than how to use Google tooling since joining. I don’t generally seek meaning from my job but I am so disconnected and disengaged from what I am doing that I feel borderline unwell. Interviewing (though exhausting to do while still working) has honestly made life feel much better because it gives me a reason to go learn and review things.
Let’s all qut
Atleast you could learn how to spell QUIT before you actually qut :)
God dammit 😂
Just out of interest, what part of Google did you work on that made you feel like you learned nothing?
I won’t get org-specific, but this is really common. I haven’t been there long but have seen very many people at a senior level complain that they’ve been there for too long and no longer have the skills to be paid comparably to do something else. Roles for teams and individuals can get so wildly specific to certain esoteric tasks that there’s nothing to learn that generalizes beyond how to solve those specific problems using Google infra. It can be hard to land a role (and know in advance if you’ve found a role) such that you will mostly work on interesting problems rather than Google-flavored technical debt.
Know exactly what you mean Been. There.
It’s just as much about learning how to work with different people (on things maybe you already know). Use the rest of your time there to try to get as many people as possible to see your value. An experiment, to make things fun; to try to establish their trust and get assigned interesting work.
This is solid advice, no doubt. Just not something that works well on this timescale. Google is very slow and I have to move on this other offer
Where’s the next leg of your journey taking you?
What does your relocation bonus and signing bonus agreements say? Less than 2 weeks notice is rude. I wouldn’t worry about Google specifically, but people you work with might remember how you’ve left, and you might meet them elsewhere, and they might make a decision about your next job. It’s a small community, so I’d leave leaving good impression behind. Totally understand your reasons. I’m not taking any jobs in large it corporations despite higher pay offers and Kaspersky situation with media, because they let me do way more cool stuff here.
It says that I would payback a prorated portion of signing and relo. I tend to agree on the two weeks thing. Just can’t tell how long to let it drag out as I’m at a good exit point in work. My manager is also out of town and I’m not staying a month in order to work around that.
It definitely is a small community, but I doubt someone committed to middle management will start a startup you'd want to work at in the future (or one at all). Good engineers don't hold irrational grudges like that.
Do what is best for you. That said, don’t you have a 1-year cliff on RSU’s? It sounds easier to just stay until the end of the year. That way you keep the bonuses and avoid clawbacks, but also vest RSU’s.
My new grad offer doesn't have a cliff period for GSUs
Interesting!
I thought people who work at Google, work there for Catered lunches. Coz I never heard them talk about tech, all they have to tell me is how awesome their perks are
Now thinking about it, that does sound true. I can't remember anyone telling me anything about the tech.
Google pays crap. Go other places and make more money!
If the startup is where the work you want to do is, screw the money and go do it. You can make more money, but you'll never get your time back.
Assuming this new place pays a bay area living wage.
Oh I agree. I’m going. I just really could use info on what to expect next
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