PoliticsSep 10, 2019

rich white feminists be funny

It’s hilarious what some privileged white chicks think is important. I wish there was a bigger culture of actual criticism in tech beyond just The Information. Fast Company is such a rag. https://apple.news/AKC7O6KHPTRiwIgQv8OODkQ

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Clover Health ondawayout Sep 10, 2019

All modern era feminists are funny because they’re not actual feminists at all.

Salesforce sowoke OP Sep 10, 2019

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Salesforce sowoke OP Sep 10, 2019

I don’t think that it is a mental illness, but I do think it’s most prolific iterations are self-serving and shallow. But let’s not fool ourselves into thinking things are great for all poor women of color. They’re not. But white tech feminists aren’t concerned about them.

Cisco aynrand1 Sep 10, 2019

I agree women of color have it bad and we need to help them. White feminist on the other hand can go f*** off. How educated people could possibly think women are disadvantaged when men get screwed in divorce, die earlier, are put in jail at much higher rates, are less educated, much more likely to commit suicide, have fought wars to protect women, the list goes on. Men are the real victims. Now it’s ok to be an entitled, sociopathic, twat so long as you’re crushing a white man.

Stripe yOUM10 Sep 10, 2019

Well, I am broadly concerned that rich white feminists don’t actually care about social justice. They are totally absent when it comes to supporting POCs or people with disabilities. They actually love the hierarchy. They just wish they were one spot higher on it. Bumble’s problem is that it is an app designed for rich white/asian feminists who don’t actually want a relationship. Relationships by definition require compromise, and you can tell their leadership believe in the fallacy that women can “have it all” (no one, man or woman, can have it all) and shouldn’t have to compromise. When I was online dating, before marriage, my experience as a male on Bumble was far worse than Tinder or IRL dating — the women treated Bumble like a Doordash type of service to order a male, treating dating as another area of life to “master” like work or school, seeking for the best man on paper so as to unlock greater ascension on the social ladder. No one finds love on Bumble and it’s even worse as a disempowering hookup app than Tinder. While I consider myself a feminist, as I advance in years, I feel myself seriously entertaining the trope that feminism is leaving leagues of women unhappy and unfulfilled. It sells the false bill of goods that women can have everything, or that women who desire a family are a failure in someway and should put career first. Not even men should put career first. As women reach their mid-30’s, I find only then that they start to desire a partner in earnest and consider children. But they’ve learned a deeply engrained set of no-compromise dating habits that they can’t quite jettison, and continue to tout their professional accomplishments while oblivious to the fact that their professional accomplishments was never what made them attractive life partners in the first place. Then, they drink wine to sedate their cognitive dissonance and embitterment over it instead of just changing. I know, I know, that is a lot of generalization — I am really only talking about a specific subset of women. That subset overlaps quite a bit with the Bumble user community though, which is why Bumble was never a good place for earnest men to find a serious life partner. Having a women-first dating app will lead to failure. The app may succeed in generating revenue, but its mission to create relationships will fail, because most relationships require both a man and a woman. Men just use Bumble while they’re on the toilet for an ego boost, but by now I think they know it never goes anywhere with the career-first-and-life-last type of rich feminists.

Salesforce sowoke OP Sep 10, 2019

Nailed it. Exactly this. The part about how white/Asian tech feminists just want to be at the top of the hierarchy is gold. That’s what’s going on. Thanks for such an articulate and thoughtful response.

Cisco aynrand1 Sep 10, 2019

Yup, they’re just sociopaths