Compensation

Sharing my offer numbers from big companies for your reference

Facebook / Eng
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Nov 27, 2017

I see many questions on compensation here and would like to help answer some of them with the limited data I have. I'd like to shed some light on what the industry is paying and also encourage people to negotiate hard.

I went on an interviewing spree recently with the big companies for an SWE position and would like to share some offer numbers. The numbers below are all annual figures. I have two years of professional experience.

1) Google - 140k base, 100k RSUs, 50k sign on, 15% bonus

2) Facebook - 160k base, 75k RSUs, 75k sign on, 10% bonus

3) Lyft - 170k base, 180k RSUs, 20k sign on

4) Dropbox - 160k base, 115k RSUs, 10k sign on

5) Airbnb - 150k base, 75k RSUs, 15k sign on

6) Palantir - 150k base, 50k stock options, 25k sign on, 25k bonus

TWO years of experience, figures above are ANNUAL.

I chose FB in the end because the TC was among the highest and I resonate with FB's move fast culture. I enjoyed talking to FB interviewers the most and they made me feel very welcome. Lyft's offer was great but it's not public after all (yet) and I'm more risk adverse. Also, the commute up to SF everyday will kill me.

Curious to know which you would have chosen if you were in my shoes.

EDIT - many commenters are asking similar questions, I'll answer them once and for all here:

1. How did you go about having so many overlapping offers?

I did my phone screens early and arranged all the onsites together at a later date. There was a huge gap between some of my phone screens and onsites. I set recruiter expectations early and told them when I would make a decision. I held some offers for close to a month.

2. What's your background?

Two years of professional experience. Bachelors. Non-ivy league school. Previously from a unicorn startup. I'm mentioning these because people ask, not that I think they matter.

3. How did you prepare for the interviews?

Sadly, do lots of LeetCode. I wouldn't say my method was very optimal as I spent two months and did around 200-300 questions before the interviews. Did all the easy questions, half the medium and a fifth of the hard ones. It's important to get both quantity and quality such that you can identify the pattern of questions on first sight and know what technique to apply. Cover a variety of topics. Don't have the mentality that you won't be tested on DP. Till this day I still do LeetCode for fun as I enjoy doing them. It has become a lifestyle for me. I also used mock interview practice sites. I didn't practice much system design questions as I felt that I was pretty strong in design for my field.

4. Are you bullshitting?

You can believe what you like since it's anonymous after all. Some commenters do agree that such numbers are possible, and they're totally right.

5. Did you get rejected anywhere?

Yes, I got rejected by some smaller startups at the onsite stage.

6. Why didn't you apply to Microsoft, Amazon, Apple <insert big name here>?

I did. I applied to every big company out there. But the application process of large companies is so noisy that chances of getting noticed are so low. Thankfully I had FB and Google referrals else I doubt I would have gotten a reply at all.

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  • Amazon / Eng
    h😎😁🐕

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    IBM
    h😎😁🐕more
    Wait FB gives u 280k signon in total? WTF
    Nov 27, 201715
    • Intel zDAg88
      Bullshit. I know several PhDs from top 10 schools including Stanford that get these kind of offers. 2 years with a BS? Nope.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Twitter / EngTweeple
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's for you not to believe. I personally know people who have similar numbers.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook SatansLove
      Apparently no one gives a shit about your fancy schmancy schools mate XD It’s not bullshit, I can confirm. Also got Goog, FB.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft Fanta
      Lol intel dude is having an existential crisis. Sadly the market is hot and leetcode is the only path forward
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google tQoL36
      he he, intel dude is in fool's paradise.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google / Engstewart399
      Intel dude is a moron. This is real
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google tQoL36
      yep, I got similar G offer with 3 years of experience but at level 4 (more base, less stock)
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft Fanta
      What is the top of the band in terms of base for Google T4?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google tQoL36
      I guess 165-70 should be top band for level 4
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng
      hhryjfd

      FacebookEng

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      Microsoft
      hhryjfdmore
      Ph.D is equal to two years of experience in current market. Both will get L4/E4 offer.
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Dropbox TradeJoe's
    Wow. I am so underpaid
    Nov 27, 20171
    • LinkedIn Brighton
      By this standard, yes!
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Oracle l769als7
    Can you explain your negotiation strategy with so many offers?
    Nov 27, 201713
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Yes
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Apple chipotlefa
      Were you sharing the actual offer letter to other companies or just number . And how does other company Beleive one number to the other ?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Just the numbers. I believe sharing the actual offer letter will get you into trouble
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Expedia Riuk
      Thanks for all details.
      I'm curious to know how many Leetcode problems did you end up solving and how long did it take you.
      Also, how did you practice design questions?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft bfAR68
      Curious about ^^ as well
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Amazon / MgmtDo_it
      Just like buying a car. Don't negotiate. Simply let them battle. Set clear rules. 2 rounds. In 2nd round, start from the lowest/worst offer and ask for their best and final.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Over 200 LC questions. I didn't practice for design qns. They felt quite natural to me
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Expedia Riuk
      Wow! Okay..any specific ratio of easy-med-hard ?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      All the easy, 1/2 the medium, 1/5 of the hard
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Expedia Riuk
      Thank you! This helps
      Nov 29, 2017
  • LinkedIn zwKL72
    Look, OP is clearly a rockstar. Even good people get rejected from interviews. I would suspect these offers are near the high end from all these companies. If your salary is less it doesn’t mean you are underpaid.
    Nov 28, 20174
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      I like to think that I lucked out this time. Interviewing success is a function of skill + preparation + luck
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft Fber
      Agreed with OP on the luck aspect and Kudos for recognizing as such. I had similar numbers before coming to FB and thought many of my co workers were more capable than me. Much respect.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Google tQoL36
      ^this. I like you, Op!
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Wow. Most likeable humble bragger of all time apparently 😂
      Nov 28, 2017
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    • Pure Storage kFnB15
      Hopefully the # of likes on 👆 will get OP's attention to shed some light.

      Thanks again for sharing the numbers OP!
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Nvidia lVFd38
      Very curious, please share!
      Did you take a week off to do all the onsite interviews?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Amazon / MgmtftEHw
      Related: for how long did the offers stand? ~1w is standard, afaik
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Do your phone screens early and arrange all the onsites together at a later date. There was a huge gap between some of my phone screens and onsites. I took two weeks off to do all the onsites. Most tiring two weeks of my life. Was basically a full-time interviewee
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Regarding how long the offers lasted, I set recruiters expectations early as to when I was able to make a decision. So some of them lasted for a month. Google was the slowest to get back to me (no surprise there)
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Airbnb Bahnah
      Interesting strategy. So you planned the two weeks of pto first and scheduled everything else anchored around those two weeks.

      Did you target fall season bc it might have more recruiting activity, or does that timing not really matter for experienced hires?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      I wouldn't call myself an experienced hire. I didn't target any timing. I was very unhappy at my previous job and that drove me to study hard for interviews. My main source of motivation was to get out of my previous job.
      Nov 28, 2017
  • LinkedIn AlgoLover
    So Lyft is 180k stock annually?? :O Wondering why you left a 350k TC at Lyft..
    Nov 27, 20172
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Because Lyft stocks aren't worth anything at the moment and I don't really like having to commute to SF everyday.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • LinkedIn AlgoLover
      Hmm makes sense.. Btw may I ask what area do you work in? Is it AI/ML/Data science? Bcos the offers look very high
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Qualtrics Q123
    There's gonna be a lot of leetcoding after reading this... 😁
    Nov 29, 20170
  • Ring ecvR86
    Reeks of a pathological liar in here ;)
    Nov 27, 20171
    • Google tQoL36
      with due respect, sir, you don't know shit about SWE salary
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Uber leapfrog1
    Personally I had much better offers than op from these companies. But I am a senior. Not sure why those companies are so desperate to get a 2 years experience person? Especially in current new graduates unfriendly market.
    Nov 28, 20179
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Perhaps they see potential in new grads. Congrats on your better offers (:
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Google bigtable
      He was awesome in the interviews.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Qualcomm / Eng
      elitist

      QualcommEng

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      Qualcomm
      BIO
      Embedded software engineer
      elitistmore
      Interview performance makes a big difference
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Uber leapfrog1
      Btw, others seems like sde 1 or 2 except lyft, which like a senior offer. Personally I will pick lyft among them. Others make u livable in Bay Area. Lyft may make u rich. Take some risk at young age.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Indeed. I did the best for my Lyft interviews.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Amazon justAGuy01
      Lyft is also a sde2 offer .. thats stretching their t4 band but it's t4
      Nov 28, 2017
    • eBay whitman
      Leapfrog do you mind sharing your offers for senior position?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Uber leapfrog1
      190k base 900k/4 years rsu 50k sign on for big companies and 1.5x rsu for pre-ipos. But sadly I never get 100k+ sign on bonus as op did.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Yahoo goofyyy
      How many years of experience do you have ? What levels were you hired at ?
      Dec 18, 2017
  • PayPal Pejnsjsl
    I am so underpaid!!! These numbers just put me to depression.
    Nov 27, 20174
    • Google tQoL36
      time for leetcoding!
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft Sammy1985
      No kidding. This could buy early retirement.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • When DO swe’s retire??
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Amazon Mv9
      Portland
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Pandora qwe1
    Did you share your current TC with recruiters at the time when you were interviewing?
    Nov 27, 20177
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Nope. That's the first rule of offer negotiation!
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Pandora qwe1
      Totally agreed, was curious to confirm it
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Amazon Eeqa10
      When asked, do you simply say something like "I would rather not answer"?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft CNTQ74
      Yeah, I would like to know this as well. Did you share your tittle at least which would have given them the ballpark?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Verathon / Eng
      naw

      VerathonEng

      BIO
      💅 Seattle
      nawmore
      Just say you prefer to keep that to yourself at this time. Never had an issue using that line.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      I only had two years of experience so it was kinda redundant to ask for my title. None of the recruiters asked me so I didn't have to answer. If you're asked, simply answer "I do not feel that my next job offer should not be based on my current salary and that I should be paid according to market value".
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft MaeR14
      It's anyways going to be illegal to ask about current salary in California
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Informatica anonymos66
    People calling this BS....I'll tell you it is not the case at all. My roommate with two years experience scored into Lyft with same figures. I think people who have all their shit together are able to get such unbelievable offers. Congrats OP you have an awesome future in front of you.
    Nov 27, 20170
  • Amazon Er24op
    Can you share your gender and race
    Nov 27, 20175
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      It shouldn't matter. FB does not discriminate
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft nNKI40
      Lol
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft nNKI40
      With charisma = 9
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Only a dude would brag about this shit, lol
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Amazon / Engsomecsdude
      well its a known fact, but as a male I’m okay it. It would not matter that much in more senior level.
      Dec 6, 2017
  • Apple Bnhjk56
    Insane for 2 years! Congratulations. I know folks with 5 years making less. Bachelors or Masters? Which field in SWE?
    Nov 27, 20172
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Bachelor's. I'm doing client side development.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google Linkedin
      Man, 5 years is nothing :)
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Pure Storage oiuytr
    This is a message for all those that don’t believe the OP.

    It’s all about the interview performance!!! Most big companies won’t care if 2 vs 5 years of experience if they think you are really smart. Unfortunately, the interview processes have a very narrow way to figure out if you are smart or not: whiteboard coding interviews. I did the same thing that the OP did here: practice a couple of hours every day after work for 5-6 weeks before interviewing and my offers from those companies were very close (some higher some lower) to the OP’s. At the time, I had 0 years of experience though I had a masters.
    Nov 29, 20170
  • WRKSHP / Eng
    o_o how are your offers so high? I'm also at close to two years but mine (also multiple offers) are significantly lower (they independently all came up with similar numbers). Do you have any tips on how to negotiate to get better offers?
    Nov 29, 201711
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      offer 1:
      $120k + ??? (still working on it but that's the approximate number. It's a startup)
      offer 2:
      $125k + 400 stock, vesting over 4 years. Current stock price is $92 + 10% annual bonus
      offer 3:
      $125k + $100k in stock, vesting over 4 years + $10k signing
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Facebook / Enginstandidl
      Main tip is get an offer at a tier 1 and 2 company. The numbers will be higher
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Are your offers from big companies or small startups? I had an offer from a small startup for 125k. Big companies tend to be more generous.
      Nov 29, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      1) small
      2) big (but not well known)
      3) small acquired by big
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      I think the strategy is to linearly provide the offer numbers. I took the offers from the small startups (125 and 150), presented them to Lyft and Airbnb and they came back with 160 and 152 respectively. Then take those offers and give to Dropbox, FB and Google to "outbid" the earlier ones.
      Nov 29, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      Ah in that case I guess you were lucky to get the $150k from the smaller one in the first place. But that makes a lot of sense
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Databricks / Eng
      datadicks

      DatabricksEng

      BIO
      I suck
      datadicksmore
      You are a woman WRKSHP. They see your long hair and automatically price down at least 20%. Not even joking
      Dec 3, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      Lol
      Nah, it's fine. I negotiated it up
      Dec 3, 2017
    • Facebook / Engm0vef@st
      Sexism is not tolerated here
      Dec 3, 2017
    • Cisco / EngQQlO08
      I'm surprised that starting by giving the (low) offers of startups to Lyft and Airbnb actually worked. The classic negotiation strategy is to not give the first number, especially if its low
      Jul 16
  • Salesforce Númenor
    OP, how are you liking it at Facebook? How’s work life balance?
    Feb 410
    • Facebook / Engfmlpls
      It's good there!
      Feb 5
    • Salesforce Númenor
      I heard most ppl work for 11-12 hours a day? Is this true?
      Feb 5
    • Facebook / Engfmlpls
      Lies.
      Feb 6
    • Salesforce Númenor
      I see. Mind sharing what your work hours are like?
      Feb 7
    • Facebook / Engfmlpls
      8.45 - 5.45. But I see many people come do 9 - 5.
      Feb 7
    • Google / Engfart
      It's more like 10:30-5 at Google 😆
      Feb 8
    • Facebook / Enginstandidl
      Google is definitely way more chill
      Feb 8
    • Microsoft jdfw70
      I like those hours.
      Feb 8
    • PayPal / OtherVenmo
      Google under utilizes majority of smart ppl. They just hire them so that they don't go to other top companies 😂
      Feb 8
    • Google / Engfart
      The flip side of flexible working hours is that you'll end up working more, even though you're not physically present on your desk. At home, on the shuttle bus, etc.. But thats still up to individual, it's not expected of you.. as long as you deliver
      Feb 8
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    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Company: unicorn startup. Degree: Bach. Role: client side development.

      Sadly Google only levelled me at L3
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google bartle
      Great offers, congratulations!
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google / Eng
      eYiX63

      GoogleEng

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      eYiX63more
      How did you influence leveling at different employers?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      I didn't try to. I think I did extremely well for Lyft hence the high offer and then the other offers were trying to match it
      Nov 27, 2017
    • eBay whitman
      Did you have to present the actual offer letter during negotiation or is verbal enough
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Verbal. Or textual (over email)
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google bigtable
      what? That comp for L3? Wow!
      Nov 27, 2017
    • LinkedIn / Engjob hunter
      I saw in another comment that you negotiated the google offer from 65k RSU up to 107k. That’s probably the moment they re-leveled you to E4.
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Credit Karma VeganBacon
    Did you get rejected anywhere?
    Nov 28, 20179
    • Box / EngObiUno
      I'm going to guess, no. Haha
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Yes, I got rejected from Instacart and Asana.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • eBay whitman
      Phone or in person?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Onsites. I passed all my phone screens
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Google fmlll
      How was Asana interview. Why did you get rejected? Is it harder than FB/G
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      It was an even split on algorithms and design questions and almost all the questions were done on a whiteboard. I would say they're harder than FB and G.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Google fmlll
      So they didn't ask much algo and coding problems but design?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      They did. Each session had one algo one design. 4 sessions in total.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Asana / Engimrandom
      I think I need a raise...
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Microsoft COTV56
    Where did you before FB?
    Nov 27, 20178
    • Microsoft COTV56
      And how were the interviews ?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Was previously from a unicorn startup. The interviews were ok perhaps because I prepared adequately for them.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Nextdoor RoodtxeN
      Leetcode?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Yep LeetCode (sadly) and mock interviews
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft Fanta
      How many leetcode questions did you solve if you don't mind? Congrats, this is amazing. Would love to hear any tips on how to effectively study leetcode
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Amazon / Otherboomshakal
      What was the unicorn company?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft Rsk:)3$?2!
      Only see 2 missing from that list
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Around 200-300 LC questions. Go for the more popular questions as they will impart you crucial techniques that can be applicable to other qns. It's also important to cover more breadth, have adequate practice for different topics.

      Sorry, revealing the company would make it easy to reveal my identity.
      Nov 27, 2017
  • eBay whitman
    Would love to know in detail how you went about preparation. Thanks.
    Nov 27, 20172
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Lots of LeetCode (sadly) and mock interviews.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • New / Eng
      xofulb

      NewEng

      PRE
      VMware, Brocade Communications, Nokia
      BIO
      Take your coding puzzles and shove it up your ***
      xofulbmore
      Holy fuck, this leetcode cancer is gonna get us all. Congrats and Good luck.
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Tesla q2007bb
    Dropbox recently secured Deloitte as their underwriters and are about to IPO. I️ would’ve gone with them.
    Nov 27, 20173
    • Microsoft
      Lablab

      Microsoft

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      BIO
      Amazon to the country club.
      Lablabmore
      Definitely fake news. Deloitte is not an investment bank as mentioned above.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Deloitte was the company securing HPE about the 13 billion autonomy deal. Thanks Deloitte!
      Nov 30, 2017
  • Apple chibarbie
    Wow. Thanks so much for sharing. I’ve always been curious. This also makes so much sense as to why I had to leave SF because of inflated rent - most people (non-engineers) don’t make near this. I was outbid on so many apartments it was demoralizing.
    Nov 27, 20170
  • Intel zDAg88
    Bachelor's degree with 2 years? I am calling Bullshit.
    Nov 27, 20175
    • Microsoft Fber
      I have nearly identical numbers. Similar situation and experience. Same field. Client side.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Amazon banananas
      Haha the Intel guy
      Nov 28, 2017
    • eBay whitman
      Fber what language did you use for your coding interviews?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft Fber
      Mostly Javascript. I feel like front end questions are much more narrow in scope. Some alg & ds questions I did in python (what I practiced leetcode with)
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Intel / Engfoo()
      Intel pays crap, this is common knowledge.
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Google fmlll
    Google gave you 107k RSU annually? That is fucking insane of L3. I think that is more like an L4 offer
    Nov 27, 20173
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Right, but that was after negotiation. Initially it was only 62.5k annually. I believe they levelled me as a senior L3
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / EngEgi0
      "senior L3" lol
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google Linkedin
      It’s not almost L4, it’s above median L4.
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Google tQoL36
    Congratulations, Op! You kicked some serious ass.
    Nov 27, 20170
  • Hired secret_use
    I wonder if this form of negotiation could be made into a startup. Set hiring companies, car dealers, real estate renters/purchasers in transparent and direct competition. Seems that anyone complaining on this post about getting a bad deal when they got hired might not have negotiated as extensively or in less ideal market conditions, but I think the primary issue for employees in the US is that we are pushed to not discuss compensation openly and negotiations happen in secretive vacuums. In basic economics you learn that one of the components of a perfectly competitive market is perfect information for market participants, but we live in a world of monopolistic competition (big companies competing with each other), so maybe creating a platform along these lines would basically make unions unnecessary and the market in general more fair by eliminating inefficient/inconsistent pricing/compensation
    Nov 27, 20172
    • Tableau TheOrville
      It could. Why not have agents negotiate on our behalf. We are like poorly paid pro players on the practice squad.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Hired secret_use
      @TheOrville Thanks for supporting the idea, I would even take it a step further though and take the agent out of the picture as well to provide the buyer/seeker with the tools to carry out this process more easily on their own
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Lyft BLgS66
    Congrats and thanks for sharing! You did really well for yourself. Also, a lot of respect and kudos for having TC be part of your decision along with wanting to work with FB code and shorter commute, instead of money being the top focus. Good luck!
    Nov 28, 20171
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Thank you, your words mean a lot to me
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Google MHSC22
    Wow, I am clearly getting shafted. What level did they offer you at Google?
    Nov 27, 20176
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      L3 sadly
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google MHSC22
      Wow, back when I was hired 140k was quite a lot for l3. Although I suppose you're in CA, and they have to adjust for cost of living
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      I think they treated me as a senior L3 and not a fresh grad L3 (:
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google Linkedin
      Indeed, your offer looks like a great T4 offer at G
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google bigtable
      It looks like senior T4 to me.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google / Eng
      me@google

      GoogleEng

      PRE
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      me@googlemore
      The offer is a great L4 offer, way above L3
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Google zMjT02
    Toss up between Google, Facebook, and Lyft depending on your interests. Lyft’s offer is the only pre-IPO that seems like a reasonable counter to Google/Facebook.

    Personally I would go to Google over Facebook (which I did), but perfectly reasonable to go to Facebook.

    Would you mind sharing your G/F pre-negotiation offers if you have them? Presumably this is at L4/E4.
    Nov 27, 20172
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      I wasn't able to negotiate on base pay as I had given the recruiters the offers from other companies and the first offer I got was already pretty high. Pre-nego values for Google was 250k RSU (total) and for FB was 30k sign on.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook Sona
      You negotiated 62k rsus/year to 107? Pretty solid
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Splunk I will be
    What would a person with 5-10 years experience get?
    Dec 14, 20171
    • PayPal / EngBitPal
      Tree fiddy
      Dec 15, 2017
  • Google XpYa60
    This thread has become cancer.
    Nov 27, 20175
    • Google tQoL36
      feeling the underpaid heat?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google XpYa60
      Not yet, still a new grad L3 but I’m happy with my comp...for now. Getting tired of these same threads on Blind but still can’t stop reading them...lol
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google tQoL36
      he he. You are right, every few days one of these threads will pop up. And some does make me feel way underpaid. But I want to keep myself informed and be with the market.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google Ag7j#Z
      I accepted a new grad offer with $210k continuous comp at Google and literally laughed when people posted "it's good Google doesn't negotiate" in response to threads about cost cutting
      Nov 27, 2017
    • BBVA Jamon
      Thanks op. Can you share your gender and race? Just curious
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Google / Engwiyxzr
    So Google offer 107.5k RSU x 4, vested over 4 years? Damn, I got screwed really bad
    Nov 27, 20174
    • Apple Bnhjk56
      How much did you get?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Airbnb Bahnah
      430k over 4 years is insanely good
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google / Engwiyxzr
      Need OP to confirm 😃
      Nov 28, 2017
    • eBay whitman
      There initial RSUs were 250k. Is that what you got?
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Apple pupl22
    It’s very amazing! Do you mind sharing your method for using leetcode optimally? I assume you didn’t solve all the problems and you smartly filtered many of them based on the difficulty, area, etc. Also, how much time did you spend on preparation? How similar were the interview questions to leetcode?
    Nov 27, 20173
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Sadly I wouldn't say my method was very optimal. I did around 200-300 before the interviews. Did all the easy questions, half the medium and a fifth of the hard ones. It's important to get both quantity and quality such that you can identify the pattern of questions on first sight and know what technique to apply. Cover a variety of topics. Don't have the mentality that you won't be tested on DP. I spent around two months training LeetCode. Till this day I still do LeetCode for fun as I enjoy doing them. It has become a lifestyle for me.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Marvell kgLv35
      @OP: What’s DP?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft MaeR14
      Dynamic programming
      Nov 28, 2017
  • TI clhl04
    Fuck this I’m depressed
    Nov 29, 20171
    • Salesforce jKVE63
      It is. But then again, the fact that most of us are depressed by this makes it slightly less depressing in my book.
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Microsoft ill🥃2that
    I love the fact you tell us you went to a non-ivy league school.

    Like it matters lol
    Nov 28, 20176
    • Google tQoL36
      people asked him and have the incorrect notion that schools mattered.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft ill🥃2that
      School matters just IMO not whether it's ivy league or not
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Nvidia qwerk
      Yeah I've never had the impression that Ivy League matters in tech. Top CS/EE schools are not Ivy League
      Nov 28, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      ^ exactly. Out of the top cs schools - Berkeley, caltech, MIT, CMU, and Stanford - none are ivy league.
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Microsoft ill🥃2that
      I mean where did the idea that ivy league schools are so great come from? I only think of them as schools for the kids of rich people.

      Stop and think for a second. How does the son of a rich person get automatically accepted, but another kid has to jump through a million hoops to get in?

      Simple, the school isn't for the latter and the barrier of entry is high so he doesn't get in.

      I always feel like immigrants came here and mistook the ivy leagues for something they are not.
      Nov 29, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      I've heard the main advantage of an ivy league are the connections. But if you go to Berkeley or Stanford, I'm sure you can get your similar value in connections at tech companies.

      I think half the value of having gone to Berkeley for me is the connections.
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Amazon rasengan
    HR stirring up pathological discontent so that people interview more.
    How does someone line up interviews so that they get all offers at almost the same time.
    Nov 27, 20176
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Do your phone screens early and arrange all the onsites together at a later date. There was a huge gap between some of my phone screens and onsites
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft MaeR14
      I think Google takes the longest time. Did you do Google on-sites among the first few interviews?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Nope they were the last. I arranged the more valuable companies at the back. I did tell the Google recruiter about the timeline and they tried to make the process faster
      Nov 28, 2017
    • eBay a11111
      Where there some companies that wanted a quick response or did everyone give you at least a week or two?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Most gave me a month. FB was the nicest. The recruiter allowed me to wait for Google to come back to me with the offer before letting me decide
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Marketo / Mktgcmo
      A MONTH to accept/decline an offer?!
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Facebook .🗣🤔🤛
    Congrats! That google offer would be top of the band for L4, unthinkable for L3. I think you chose wisely in picking FB E5
    Nov 27, 20173
    • Facebook Subarray
      Pretty sure that is E4. See bonus percentage. Pretty close to the max E4 offer.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook .🗣🤔🤛
      Right, I meant to write E4
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google wannakum
      It’s not top of band for l4 at google. I recently joined w 160+600k
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Salesforce / Eng
    RestNVest

    SalesforceEng

    PRE
    IBM
    RestNVestmore
    No MSFT/AMZN offer?
    Nov 27, 20171
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      They didn't respond to my application. I wasn't too interested in those companies also because i didn't hear nice stuff about their culture
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Qualcomm / Eng
    oiiy

    QualcommEng

    PRE
    Intel
    BIO
    ASIC
    oiiymore
    for 2 years of exp this is a shit lots of money
    Nov 27, 20170
  • Deutsche Bank LPeJ52
    Why half - due to taxes ?
    Nov 30, 201715
    • Adobe ocrp10
      Show an example and teach the rest how it works.
      Dec 1, 2017
    • Adobe...i think you are confusing tax withholding versus taxes owed. No offense, but you are giving bad advice.
      Dec 1, 2017
    • One more...you need to understand marginal tax rate vs effective tax rate
      Dec 1, 2017
    • Box / EngObiUno
      I'm pretty sure Adobe/ocrp10 is correct. I've read other articles similar to the one he posted, above. You get ~ 55% of your RSU shares and 45% of the shares are kept by the company to cover your taxes.
      Dec 3, 2017
    • Box....that’s taxes withheld. Dont cofuse with taxes you owe.
      Dec 3, 2017
    • Box / EngObiUno
      OK, yeah, you're right, I am confused. If they "withhold" too many shares, do you get more shares later? My understanding is that RSUs are treated differently than income and that the 45% is kept permanently. Thanks!
      Dec 3, 2017
    • You dont get shared you get money.
      Dec 4, 2017
    • Amazon / Engsomecsdude
      Box, when you file tax return you get that diff back
      Dec 6, 2017
    • Twitch HXWt38
      Jesus some dumb people in here. It's all taxed the same at vest.
      Dec 7, 2017
  • Microsoft bfAR68
    What University and GPA? Any other unique factors you think might have contributed that haven't already been asked?
    Nov 27, 20173
    • IBM / Eng...
      I don't think GPA matters, Uni may carry some value but I think it's more OP's abilities to kickass when and whereever required that got him/her these offers
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft
      Lablab

      Microsoft

      PRE
      Amazon
      BIO
      Amazon to the country club.
      Lablabmore
      Lol
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Tbh I think it's just the quality and quantity of competing offers
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Qualcomm / Eng
    oiiy

    QualcommEng

    PRE
    Intel
    BIO
    ASIC
    oiiymore
    how many years of experience?
    Nov 27, 20173
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      It's mentioned in the description - two years
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Pinterest sgslaowg
      Two years after bs degree?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Yep
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Airbnb Bahnah
    Also how much of these interviews were non leetcode (system design, databases, concurrency, etc)?

    If you don’t mind, could you say which ones are heavier on the non-leetcode interviews?
    Nov 27, 20170
  • Netflix j5x
    Thank you for sharing. Amazing for someone your age.
    Nov 28, 20174
    • eBay whitman
      How much are you making at Netflix?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • ALOT
      Nov 30, 2017
    • Netflix j5x
      390 but I’m early thirties.
      Nov 30, 2017
    • eBay whitman
      Thanks. How long have you been there and how do you like it?
      Nov 30, 2017
  • Intel theil
    70k sign on is huge. Any idea of how much it's taxed and how long do you have to stay at FB to receive it. I'm assuming also it's not lump sum? Congratulations.
    Nov 28, 20174
    • Amazon justAGuy01
      At the end, it's taxed as part of ur normal salary ..
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Enginstandidl
      Bonus is added to your normal income for taxation.

      Likely it is prorated if you leave before 1 year.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Pure Storage oiuytr
      My last sign on was taxed upfront 45%.
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Facebook / Enginstandidl
      That’s the withholding. It’s still taxed like normal income.
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Google fmlll
    Google offer seems higher. Why did you pick FB @OP
    Nov 29, 20171
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Prefer the FB environment
      Dec 7, 2017
  • Cisco jfpg
    How many iterations of bidding can you do with companies in question? Did the ones that got outbid like Airbnb refuse to increase their numbers beyond a point?
    Nov 28, 20171
    • Facebook / Engserially
      OP
      Not really. Just once. Some of the offers like Airbnb and Palantir weren't even negotiated because I was just focusing on FB and Google
      Dec 7, 2017
  • Microsoft / Design206wrkr
    Thanks for sharing and helping the community. I love how this app has empowered the coal miners to earn more.
    Mar 180
  • Salesforce jKVE63
    How much were you making at the start up?
    Nov 29, 20170

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