đ Most prestigious company for product managers?
Based on: * Average talent quality * How hard it is to get hired * How much impact they have on the product * Compensation * Reputation/track record Poll choices are alphabetical.
Iâve worked at 4 of the 5 FAANGs and none of the PMs come close to the PMs at Amazon in terms of competence
Explain apart from Lp
PMs at other companies are purely charismatic, organized people. At Amazon they may not always be charismatic but theyâre always well versed in technical competencies and considerations; the current market trends; the competition; the costs and the time projects take. Theyâre also all data driven which is required within the Amazon culture. You canât bullshit an Amazon PM the same way you can a Facebook (the poorest) or an Apple PM.
Amazon has the best product managers and Google has the best engineers. If these two companies work together they can do wonders. Google has made some terrible product decisions.
i dont see albertsons....
Amazon's internal tools are so bad they never go public hence there is nothing to kill. Amazon also doesn't give engineers time for side projects or experimenting. Google has good side projects people do which are made public but no one to maintain hence more products to kill.
any1 ever get to the end of that site? it takes infinite scrolling to a whole new meaning
Databricks hands down
Whereâs Walmart?
I am told LinkedIn and Salesforce also has great PM culture and quality.
Google. Their interview process seems to pick good candidates and eliminate people that can even remotely trick the interview process. Density of smart PMs is also high there. But the irony is they are not producing great products. Forget great products, not even remotely successful products. All the successful google products are engineering driven? Would Google PMs have produced successful products if they were elsewhere? I think so.
How are these weighted: * Average talent quality * How hard it is to get hired * How much impact they have on the product * Compensation * Reputation
Roughly in that order I think. I know huge companies like Amazon/Microsoft might fare badly on this because large numbers and the average MBA hire PM canât even tie their shoes. But those companies also have lots of very impressive talent leading/launching the most successful products in the industry. If all I told you was âPM at Microsoftâ you donât think of the max value, but the average value. One other interesting artifact is that Google has a very high hiring bar and a hard interview, but they have a consistent record of comically bad product decisions as a company. Dumpster fire after dumpster fire. Not sure how people will evaluate that.
Interestingly I have same observation as well. Google PMs are really smart. At least the ones I know. But Google does not have any reasonably good products driven by PMs.