Compensation is the biggest pro. Also, unlike other hire to fire companies (most tech companies at this point in 2024), you at least have a chance to prove yourself and are given a couple months to onboard. There are worse tech companies out there such as Amazon and Intuit, but Meta’s culture is still quite terrible. They try and justify the long hours and stress with how much you can make - Meta still pays more than any other major tech company, even in 2024, which is definitely a pro, but the culture is cutthroat and you can’t trust anyone. It would probably be easier to work two remote jobs at “less prestigious” tech or tech adjacent companies to make the same amount at Meta with more stability, better WLB, and less drama.
Pretty much the same as what one would experience at most tech companies in 2024. But some aspects are better or worse than others. Long hours. WLB is highly team dependent. Apparently Meta used to be a lot better in this regard, but now not so much. It is intense, but if you have startup experience, it is at least less intense than that. And again, it is more fair than a place like Amazon. Office politics are a thing at all tech companies, but a little more extreme at Meta. Blame and shame culture is big. People are snakes and are prepared to throw even the newest and most vulnerable employees under the bus to save their own skins. This makes things quite unfair, but as long as you’re proactive and document everything thoroughly, you’re at least given a chance to refute these attacks. A lot of gossip and backstabbing. This is separate from and still related to PSC culture, which everyone complains about. Management is terrible overall. Sometimes there is micromanagement. One of the few companies where it’s possible you’ll have a manager younger than you, even if you’re only 27-31ish. Often ICs seem to be held accountable for things that are way beyond their day-to-day scope - basically things that are ultimately the fault of leadership and management. Management frequently tries to pin things on their employees. Your manager is often trying to screw you, and if they can’t find a way, they are often trying to invent things you did wrong. This isn’t a dealbreaker because as long as you’re doing your job, it is easy to refute, but it creates a ton of work because you have to be extremely well-organized and have documented every interaction with your manager colleagues. I recommend studying employment law / consulting with an employment lawyer early on in your tenure at Meta, so you know what to look for. Because it is a massive tech company, you are there to please your manager and make them look good, so you need to do pretty much whatever they say. there’s a lot of internal conflict because it’s very authoritarian, also fairly draconian, and it’s bottoms up at the same time, every man for themselves. Do everything your manager says and it is somehow still all up to you as an individual employee to make the company successful. To top it all off, your colleagues suck too. People brag about work that YOU did as being THEIR work that THEY did if it is successful. If a project involving multiple people is so much as an hour late, then YOU are blamed, even if you had nothing to do with the lateness. The lateness itself isn’t really the problem because guess what? It’s not anything is broken. Except for when things do break and the whole app crashes for a day because everyone is forced to focus on office politics instead of their actual work. it’s not really about the value you create, so much as it is the PERCEIVED value you create and whether or not your manager likes you. Ergo, a lot of bootlicking charlatans make it to the top.
I have no college degree (just HS diploma), but many years' work experience. Was offered a position at Meta a couple years ago but chose Google instead. Now I'm looking at Meta roles, and all the listings on their career site seem to *require* either a Master's degree or Bachelor's degree, and they ...Read more
Or was the recruiter just bluffing for whatever reason? They were the ones reaching out to me but then the recruiter mentioned that requirement over a call and said they think it’s ridiculous, but that’s a non starter for Meta. Is this true or they just tried to dismiss me? Never heard about that ...Read more
If you were a founder and want to recruit SWEs and you have these 3 choices. Who would you pick
Not my opinion but heard this recently. Is it true that college students don’t want to work for Facebook because of lower pay and FB being a sweatshop? I am interviewing for FB and am curious if this is true or just some cooked up rumor
I know it’s not expected for all engineers to reach E6, but I’m curious what the normal timeline is. Would doing this in 4 years be considered normal?
I am a recent graduate with Master's in Mechanical Engineering. I wanna start my new career in AR/VR technology. Work Experience: Process and Mechanical Engineering Intern - 1 year Manufacturing Engineer Internship at Scania Automative - 6 months Operations Management Intern - 3 months Design Engi...Read more
Have you heard of Harvey Mudd college? How would you rate it for STEM undergraduate courses? #meta #google #apple #netflix #nvidia #amazon
At FB I make about $5k a month take home and every quarter 8k in RSUs take home. I work about 80 hours a week, 50 at FB and 30 on my own app (I work all day on weekends) My app just hit 30k in monthly revenue and 29.6k of it is profit. I’m thinking of quitting and spending full time scaling, mark...Read more
Meta is going through rough patch but we all should be thankful to them. It is Meta who have single handedly raised the salary bar across the industry. It is because of them that we see 700-900k TC for L6s and 500k TC for L5s and 200k for new college grads. Let us all be thankful to them and whatev...Read more
92 and 82 poorly placed on top left. 101 is barely visible. Did a college freshman design this? Signed, Bill Gates #google #tech #meta #apple
The company is in a very bad situation. Everywhere is chaos and lack of leadership is obvious, poor zuck has no idea what he is doing. he thinks he has been working on a college project all these years. There are so many problems that will soon surface. Narc Elon is onto Meta ... Leaving Meta sooon...Read more
People here with no name college often state that universities don’t matter, only Leetcode does. Can you preach what you speak and don’t care about your children’s schools #google #meta #nvidia #apple #amazon #microsoft #netflix
Surprised with HRBP on 1:1 call with manager, was told that for the past several months I haven't been performing and I was being let go from Facebook with severance. Decision was final and apparently there's nothing I can do to fight it. Only have had one performance review and received a MM. I am...Read more
Single income household, 1 kid in college, another in HS. Goals: Retire by 60, simple life in California. Hopefully no mortgage by then. NW 900k incl 401k. Excludes partial equity in home and 100k in crypto. TC 330k HCOL (not in tech area @meta) #misc #retirement #finance
After working at Meta for many years and seeing the current situation of Meta layoff employees, I feel Meta has screwed up many tech roles with rest of the Industry. The PSC and Promotion culture has deviated the role and competency of people so much from the rest of the tech industry that almost ha...Read more
At Meta you have people who are 6 years out of college making $1m a year. This is widespread here. When people hear that, of course they flock to tech jobs. This drives up the supply of engineers to unsustainable levels which leaves us plebs unable to find new jobs. To alleviate this problem, Me...Read more
First job, 22, straight out of college. This was my third week at Meta boot camp. Looking for new positions as an entry-level Software Engineer. Currently on a visa. Please reach out if your company is hiring or if you can refer me. Back to leetcode. TC: 160 YOE: 0 #Meta #metalayoffs #swe #soft...Read more
Joining as a new grad and wondering what to expect. How would you guys compare WLB at Meta vs your college experience?
I am currently an E5 at FB (promoted this half) and have around 5 YoE. Facebook was my first job out of college. I was thinking to interview with Google to experience other FANG companies while I am still young and early in my career. How does Facebook compare with Google in terms of engineering c...Read more
It looks like most people who start at fb and google out of college reach L4/E4 within ~2 years and reach L5/E5 within ~5 years. Is it possible for outsiders to get in to fb/google at level 4 with only 2 YOE or to get in at level 5 with only 5 YOE? Or will people like us always lag behind those who...Read more