Compensation is the biggest pro. Also, unlike other hire to fire companies (most tech companies at this point in 2024), you at least have a chance to prove yourself and are given a couple months to onboard. There are worse tech companies out there such as Amazon and Intuit, but Meta’s culture is still quite terrible. They try and justify the long hours and stress with how much you can make - Meta still pays more than any other major tech company, even in 2024, which is definitely a pro, but the culture is cutthroat and you can’t trust anyone. It would probably be easier to work two remote jobs at “less prestigious” tech or tech adjacent companies to make the same amount at Meta with more stability, better WLB, and less drama.
Pretty much the same as what one would experience at most tech companies in 2024. But some aspects are better or worse than others. Long hours. WLB is highly team dependent. Apparently Meta used to be a lot better in this regard, but now not so much. It is intense, but if you have startup experience, it is at least less intense than that. And again, it is more fair than a place like Amazon. Office politics are a thing at all tech companies, but a little more extreme at Meta. Blame and shame culture is big. People are snakes and are prepared to throw even the newest and most vulnerable employees under the bus to save their own skins. This makes things quite unfair, but as long as you’re proactive and document everything thoroughly, you’re at least given a chance to refute these attacks. A lot of gossip and backstabbing. This is separate from and still related to PSC culture, which everyone complains about. Management is terrible overall. Sometimes there is micromanagement. One of the few companies where it’s possible you’ll have a manager younger than you, even if you’re only 27-31ish. Often ICs seem to be held accountable for things that are way beyond their day-to-day scope - basically things that are ultimately the fault of leadership and management. Management frequently tries to pin things on their employees. Your manager is often trying to screw you, and if they can’t find a way, they are often trying to invent things you did wrong. This isn’t a dealbreaker because as long as you’re doing your job, it is easy to refute, but it creates a ton of work because you have to be extremely well-organized and have documented every interaction with your manager colleagues. I recommend studying employment law / consulting with an employment lawyer early on in your tenure at Meta, so you know what to look for. Because it is a massive tech company, you are there to please your manager and make them look good, so you need to do pretty much whatever they say. there’s a lot of internal conflict because it’s very authoritarian, also fairly draconian, and it’s bottoms up at the same time, every man for themselves. Do everything your manager says and it is somehow still all up to you as an individual employee to make the company successful. To top it all off, your colleagues suck too. People brag about work that YOU did as being THEIR work that THEY did if it is successful. If a project involving multiple people is so much as an hour late, then YOU are blamed, even if you had nothing to do with the lateness. The lateness itself isn’t really the problem because guess what? It’s not anything is broken. Except for when things do break and the whole app crashes for a day because everyone is forced to focus on office politics instead of their actual work. it’s not really about the value you create, so much as it is the PERCEIVED value you create and whether or not your manager likes you. Ergo, a lot of bootlicking charlatans make it to the top.
What’s the wlb like in google cloud vs meta? Heard that google cloud is very stressful and bad wlb but in general how is it compare to meta product teams? TC 300k
Meta why don’t you start a cloud company. Take a slice of the market in 5-7 years. That way you don’t need addictive apps to sell ads. Clearly Apple did you for good.
They have the infra(GPUs), talent, money. When will they open their own cloud? For comparison AWS and MSFT both did around 24bil revenue last quarter with Google doing ~8bil. This seems like a no brainer? #tech #meta #msft #google #microsoft
Don't get it. You put 15,000 engineers on the infrastructure that you build from the ground up yourselves. That's a shit ton of wasted money, you could've used a public cloud (AWS, Azure, Google thing) and instead focus your efforts on making real impact on the world, solve customer problems and bri...Read more
13 YOE, L6. Google TC: 480k/yr FB TC: 530/yr + 100k signing Fb is offering 100k sign on and 50k/year more than Google. Team at FB is interesting but in the Ads org, and I've heard WLB could be a concern. Career growth is a possibility. Google's team doesn't seem like they do anything that inter...Read more
Which one seems better? I am worried about 2 factors: WLB and getting pip. Fb: e4 250k/year (base and stocks) not including signing bonus OCI: ic4 300k/year same as above Sign on are almost same at both place. I really like the team that I talked to at Oracle. Manager is very easy going. Little ...Read more
I have offer from Facebook, Microsoft and Oracle cloud. Facebook - Menlo park Position E3 115k Base+150k stocks +60k bonus Microsoft -seattle Position L61 130k base+160k stocks +50k bonus Oracle cloud : Seattle Position : Senior MTS 155k base+350k stocks +35k bonus I have 5 yoe after bachel...Read more
I recently got an offer from Google for EM role. At Meta, in similar role. However, career growth seems really tough. Google comp is the same (slightly low considering front loading). Hiring manager said cloud will grow and opportunities will be more for future growth. I feel like I will make more m...Read more
Which would offer better growth potential for L4/E4 role? Why?
Should FB compete with AWS, GCP, OCI, Azure, and the like?
What cloud provider does Facebook use? I imagine they use many depending on the group but for the most part I’m sure they primarily use one provider or another.
They could and they are hurting from lack of diversification of revenues.
They have the all the tech(may be even better), have the data centers, have the money. They will be a formidable competitor to AWS and Azure.
Just giving suggestions even though no one asked 😂 They can do better than GCP and OCI #tech
What are the cloud or infra related PM roles known as in Google, FB, etc.? Seattle area only. Looking for life after MSFT.
Tech giants like Google, Amazon, Microsoft all have their own cloud technology, except Facebook and Apple. So FB and Apple have built their internal on-prem infra to support resource allocation, capacity management, increase instances, deployment etc, which acts like cloud? Also for smaller scale c...Read more
I have a close family member who got a call for an application engineer position for salesforce marketing cloud. I was just wondering if there are any members here who work at meta in a similar role or if anyone has interviewed for such a role at meta recently. #tech #meta #salesforce #marketing
Currently work at GCP and evaluating an opportunity at Facebook with FB app team. Want to know from people who’ve worked at both about: - passion for the product/work - work / life balance - ethics - influence of UX #tech #ux
Tc remote Midwest 130k. 5yoe Hey all, I'm about to have a second round with Facebook for Data Engineer position. I'm currently in the consulting and contracting world doing DE, Data warehousing, and Azure Cloud analytics. To me this is the future, but I can't help but want to join Facebook. What a...Read more