Compensation is the biggest pro. Also, unlike other hire to fire companies (most tech companies at this point in 2024), you at least have a chance to prove yourself and are given a couple months to onboard. There are worse tech companies out there such as Amazon and Intuit, but Meta’s culture is still quite terrible. They try and justify the long hours and stress with how much you can make - Meta still pays more than any other major tech company, even in 2024, which is definitely a pro, but the culture is cutthroat and you can’t trust anyone. It would probably be easier to work two remote jobs at “less prestigious” tech or tech adjacent companies to make the same amount at Meta with more stability, better WLB, and less drama.
Pretty much the same as what one would experience at most tech companies in 2024. But some aspects are better or worse than others. Long hours. WLB is highly team dependent. Apparently Meta used to be a lot better in this regard, but now not so much. It is intense, but if you have startup experience, it is at least less intense than that. And again, it is more fair than a place like Amazon. Office politics are a thing at all tech companies, but a little more extreme at Meta. Blame and shame culture is big. People are snakes and are prepared to throw even the newest and most vulnerable employees under the bus to save their own skins. This makes things quite unfair, but as long as you’re proactive and document everything thoroughly, you’re at least given a chance to refute these attacks. A lot of gossip and backstabbing. This is separate from and still related to PSC culture, which everyone complains about. Management is terrible overall. Sometimes there is micromanagement. One of the few companies where it’s possible you’ll have a manager younger than you, even if you’re only 27-31ish. Often ICs seem to be held accountable for things that are way beyond their day-to-day scope - basically things that are ultimately the fault of leadership and management. Management frequently tries to pin things on their employees. Your manager is often trying to screw you, and if they can’t find a way, they are often trying to invent things you did wrong. This isn’t a dealbreaker because as long as you’re doing your job, it is easy to refute, but it creates a ton of work because you have to be extremely well-organized and have documented every interaction with your manager colleagues. I recommend studying employment law / consulting with an employment lawyer early on in your tenure at Meta, so you know what to look for. Because it is a massive tech company, you are there to please your manager and make them look good, so you need to do pretty much whatever they say. there’s a lot of internal conflict because it’s very authoritarian, also fairly draconian, and it’s bottoms up at the same time, every man for themselves. Do everything your manager says and it is somehow still all up to you as an individual employee to make the company successful. To top it all off, your colleagues suck too. People brag about work that YOU did as being THEIR work that THEY did if it is successful. If a project involving multiple people is so much as an hour late, then YOU are blamed, even if you had nothing to do with the lateness. The lateness itself isn’t really the problem because guess what? It’s not anything is broken. Except for when things do break and the whole app crashes for a day because everyone is forced to focus on office politics instead of their actual work. it’s not really about the value you create, so much as it is the PERCEIVED value you create and whether or not your manager likes you. Ergo, a lot of bootlicking charlatans make it to the top.
Currently have an offer for Meta E5, Databricks and Snowflake Senior. Location - Bay Area TC 450k META, 430k (Databricks and Snow), (not exact numbers) Current Location - Seattle Current TC - 220k Level - 62, YOE 7 Visa: H1B Contemplating taking META but I am concerned about WLB . Maybe this is...Read more
Facebook Menlo Park, two counter offers: Coinbase (200 base, 600 stock), Cloud Kitchens (195 base, 550 stock). Base: 190 Bonus: 15% Equity: 500 (4 years) Sign on: 50 Current TC: 345K, L5A, 6YOE How much room do I have for negotiation? #offer EDIT: by popular demand, turned this into a poll.
Seems I got lowballed. Meta people please provide some insights. No sign on. Update: I’m close to promotion to L6. It’s just amazon shit and politics. Also, amazon RSU is worth of 150k. Fortunately Amazon RSU has increased by 45% since I was allocated. 8.5+ years of experience. Amazon : 300k To...Read more
ML/AI role, Seattle area Is the Meta offer good for level and location? PS: forgot to add 15% annual bonus. Brings TC to 411k YOE: 8
Get an offer from Facebook for E5 eng. 200k base, 550k RSU, 50k sign on. Is this upper band or average? Currently with Google and 5 years experience.
Had a team match call with Meta recently and a manager told me that currently about 80% of the company is E5 and above? Seems a bit high doesn’t it - last time I was in the job market there would be 1-2 seniors per team. TC - 130k #meta
Talked to someone at Meta that joined in the second half of 2022 during stock price lows. 5 yoe and joined as an E5 MLE. Apparently with stock price increase, her initial grant is now 2.5x and with sign on + bonus, she’s making 850k this year as an E5!!! Folks at Meta, how much has your comp incre...Read more
Am in Microsoft at L 65 . Got offered E5 at FB. numbers are yet to be out. I was hoping for E6. Is E5 okay? YOE: 16 TC: 300k
No competing offers right now, no sign on offered. Anyone managed to negotiate more without a competing offer? I have some interviews in the pipeline (likely won't match this TC anyway) but team match has been pretty dead, and I like the team that I talked to as it seems to have good WLB. Worth risk...Read more
Hi, I recently got an offer for E5 level at Meta. I had a team matching call with NextSys team(Compute Infra team) under FAIR org. I was hoping if I can get more info about the team, expectations, tech stack. I have 8 YOE with 4 years at Msft and 4 years working in software domain for semiconducto...Read more
Amzn Current SDE3 Yoe- 11yrs TC-295k (with stock appreciation) recently got promoted. Additional stocks on promotion is <;peanuts Location: Seattle (DBX is virtual first now so doesn’t matter) FB Offer -E5 SWE - they already mentioned this is the max for me TC: 195 / 600 / 80 I know FB can give
Hi, got a email offer from FB for E5, what do you think? Is it OK or bad? Recruiter says it's the maxed in every direction (negotiated base from 185 to 200 only), does not want to negotiate further. I have other offers but similar TC so no real leverage. 200/15%/450/60 8 yoe
Hi fellow blinders, I have cleared HC for an E5 SWE role and currently in the team matching process. I wanted to know what is the current offer range for E5 roles at Meta. Recruiter suggested: Base: 209k Bonus: 31k RSU: 145k per year TC: 385k Current level: L4 TC 375k YOE 6.5
I'm in the negotiations phase at Meta, I have matched with a team and wanted to ask the following: what are the chances Meta rescinds the offer in a second negotiation, I had one negotiation round with them but I'm certain I can improve the offer 10 YoE
Hi, I've been in team matching in NYC for a while now so thought I'd try here. I have lots of experience in payments and ads so if you have an opening lmk :)
Recently got 550k meta e5 offer that include sign on. What should I expect for my compensation from year 2 and above? The sign on is like 100k so my actual comp without it is like 460 ish I got top of the band E5 offer
Thanks for all the help. Sharing my offer for y’all to negotiate better. Base 210k RSU 800/4 years Sign on 90k Yearly bonus 15% of base This is for Seattle location. Current TC 270k, 8 yoe. #engineering #software #swe