Compensation is the biggest pro. Also, unlike other hire to fire companies (most tech companies at this point in 2024), you at least have a chance to prove yourself and are given a couple months to onboard. There are worse tech companies out there such as Amazon and Intuit, but Meta’s culture is still quite terrible. They try and justify the long hours and stress with how much you can make - Meta still pays more than any other major tech company, even in 2024, which is definitely a pro, but the culture is cutthroat and you can’t trust anyone. It would probably be easier to work two remote jobs at “less prestigious” tech or tech adjacent companies to make the same amount at Meta with more stability, better WLB, and less drama.
Pretty much the same as what one would experience at most tech companies in 2024. But some aspects are better or worse than others. Long hours. WLB is highly team dependent. Apparently Meta used to be a lot better in this regard, but now not so much. It is intense, but if you have startup experience, it is at least less intense than that. And again, it is more fair than a place like Amazon. Office politics are a thing at all tech companies, but a little more extreme at Meta. Blame and shame culture is big. People are snakes and are prepared to throw even the newest and most vulnerable employees under the bus to save their own skins. This makes things quite unfair, but as long as you’re proactive and document everything thoroughly, you’re at least given a chance to refute these attacks. A lot of gossip and backstabbing. This is separate from and still related to PSC culture, which everyone complains about. Management is terrible overall. Sometimes there is micromanagement. One of the few companies where it’s possible you’ll have a manager younger than you, even if you’re only 27-31ish. Often ICs seem to be held accountable for things that are way beyond their day-to-day scope - basically things that are ultimately the fault of leadership and management. Management frequently tries to pin things on their employees. Your manager is often trying to screw you, and if they can’t find a way, they are often trying to invent things you did wrong. This isn’t a dealbreaker because as long as you’re doing your job, it is easy to refute, but it creates a ton of work because you have to be extremely well-organized and have documented every interaction with your manager colleagues. I recommend studying employment law / consulting with an employment lawyer early on in your tenure at Meta, so you know what to look for. Because it is a massive tech company, you are there to please your manager and make them look good, so you need to do pretty much whatever they say. there’s a lot of internal conflict because it’s very authoritarian, also fairly draconian, and it’s bottoms up at the same time, every man for themselves. Do everything your manager says and it is somehow still all up to you as an individual employee to make the company successful. To top it all off, your colleagues suck too. People brag about work that YOU did as being THEIR work that THEY did if it is successful. If a project involving multiple people is so much as an hour late, then YOU are blamed, even if you had nothing to do with the lateness. The lateness itself isn’t really the problem because guess what? It’s not anything is broken. Except for when things do break and the whole app crashes for a day because everyone is forced to focus on office politics instead of their actual work. it’s not really about the value you create, so much as it is the PERCEIVED value you create and whether or not your manager likes you. Ergo, a lot of bootlicking charlatans make it to the top.
L6 Hardware Eng role offer 215K base 650k RSU over 4 years 75k sign-on 11yoe Bay area MPK Thoughts? Is this at the low end or high end of L6?#offer #tech
Meta hardware system design e5 final offer numbers Base 200k Bonus 15% RSU 400k over 4 years Sign on 40k Tc 330k Location sunnyvale Yoe 13 Current TC ~250k Pushed back hard on hiring at e6. This is after three rounds of negotiations. They didnt move very much from initial offer of 190/15/350/0 ...Read more
Have an opportunity for Facebook hardware operations. Currently working in Apple operations TPM team. yoe~5. compensation details: E5, base 185k, RSU 375k over 4 years, sign on 50k. Is it a reasonable offer for hardware/operations team?
what are the refresher numbers with average rating in FB/Google hardware teams? please mention your level as well.
Just found out that vp hardware in meta reality labs was chief product officer of juicero. This juicero: https://www.cnet.com/culture/juicero-is-still-the-greatest-example-of-silicon-valley-stupidity/ Omg - no wonder this company is dying. Who hires such people? Do they even do any background verif...Read more
Currently an ICT3. Heard Facebook and Google hardware teams dont have as much hardware expertise as they like and so are buying employees from traditional hardware companies What can a Masters + 2YOE expect if he/she were to move to Facebook or Google Hardware. Any insights are appreciated.
Expecting an offer from FB HW. Either higher end of E5 or lower of E6. What should I expect when negotiating? PHD+4yoe. #hardware Current TC ~ 280k
wanna some insights on current situation. did full round interview a month ago. feedback is positive. But could not get certain conclusion due to internal structure change or debate. The recruiter mention it will be severals more weeks at least to make a conclusion. May I ask what does it mean and w...Read more
Currently a HWE at a Google bet with 8 YOE in the bag area. Meta reached out, so I thoguht I’d check to see if Zukbuxz was actually a thing. I got an insulting low E5 offer also in the Bay Area. 200k salary 15% bonus 280k RSU (4 years) 300k TC I’m not even sure I want to try negotiating this, as ...Read more
Finished HW TPM loop for AR/VR team. Original job description states max base is capped at 230K. I didn’t ask HR about this during interview stage . But now if I’m expecting an offer what numbers can I expect for base, sign on, RSU , bonus? I am not sure I can ask for IC7 Current TC: 450K yoe : 13
I've heard a few numbers on Max for rsus. Is it 500k it 600k for HW? Tc: 350k #hardware
How is the work culture at FB building 8 and oculus? How does their product roadmap look like in next 4 years? I m exploring opportunities at FB and would like to get some insight from people inside about job security in hardware org.
I know about FRL supporting AR/VR efforts, what does the infrastructure group do at FB? Also what are the other teams at FB for hardware folks?
Interviewing for a systems EE role with both teams, Portal in the Bay Area and Oculus in Seattle. What’re the pros and cons of each team?