Compensation is the biggest pro. Also, unlike other hire to fire companies (most tech companies at this point in 2024), you at least have a chance to prove yourself and are given a couple months to onboard. There are worse tech companies out there such as Amazon and Intuit, but Meta’s culture is still quite terrible. They try and justify the long hours and stress with how much you can make - Meta still pays more than any other major tech company, even in 2024, which is definitely a pro, but the culture is cutthroat and you can’t trust anyone. It would probably be easier to work two remote jobs at “less prestigious” tech or tech adjacent companies to make the same amount at Meta with more stability, better WLB, and less drama.
Pretty much the same as what one would experience at most tech companies in 2024. But some aspects are better or worse than others. Long hours. WLB is highly team dependent. Apparently Meta used to be a lot better in this regard, but now not so much. It is intense, but if you have startup experience, it is at least less intense than that. And again, it is more fair than a place like Amazon. Office politics are a thing at all tech companies, but a little more extreme at Meta. Blame and shame culture is big. People are snakes and are prepared to throw even the newest and most vulnerable employees under the bus to save their own skins. This makes things quite unfair, but as long as you’re proactive and document everything thoroughly, you’re at least given a chance to refute these attacks. A lot of gossip and backstabbing. This is separate from and still related to PSC culture, which everyone complains about. Management is terrible overall. Sometimes there is micromanagement. One of the few companies where it’s possible you’ll have a manager younger than you, even if you’re only 27-31ish. Often ICs seem to be held accountable for things that are way beyond their day-to-day scope - basically things that are ultimately the fault of leadership and management. Management frequently tries to pin things on their employees. Your manager is often trying to screw you, and if they can’t find a way, they are often trying to invent things you did wrong. This isn’t a dealbreaker because as long as you’re doing your job, it is easy to refute, but it creates a ton of work because you have to be extremely well-organized and have documented every interaction with your manager colleagues. I recommend studying employment law / consulting with an employment lawyer early on in your tenure at Meta, so you know what to look for. Because it is a massive tech company, you are there to please your manager and make them look good, so you need to do pretty much whatever they say. there’s a lot of internal conflict because it’s very authoritarian, also fairly draconian, and it’s bottoms up at the same time, every man for themselves. Do everything your manager says and it is somehow still all up to you as an individual employee to make the company successful. To top it all off, your colleagues suck too. People brag about work that YOU did as being THEIR work that THEY did if it is successful. If a project involving multiple people is so much as an hour late, then YOU are blamed, even if you had nothing to do with the lateness. The lateness itself isn’t really the problem because guess what? It’s not anything is broken. Except for when things do break and the whole app crashes for a day because everyone is forced to focus on office politics instead of their actual work. it’s not really about the value you create, so much as it is the PERCEIVED value you create and whether or not your manager likes you. Ergo, a lot of bootlicking charlatans make it to the top.
I'm curious to know if Meta promos were at the same levels as before or lowered? I was layed off even though I had great reviews and was in line for promos (or so I had been led to believe). I think I would have felt worse if I didn't get layed off and then didn't get promo actually. Is psc and pro...Read more
What are the requirements for E6 promo at Facebook? Can you please share your experience; how long it took you from E5 and what expectations managers had? Joining Facebook on E5 next month. TC of FB offer: 356k (190 base, 15% bonus, 550/4 stock) @Facebook
what month does meta promo? #engineering #meta is it only In January ?
Hey employees of Meta, wanted to understand how difficult or easy it is to get promoted from E4 to E5 in 33 months. Is there a hard deadline for it?(fire if not promoted). Seems like an aggressive deadline. At my current company idea promo from L5 to L6(similar level at Meta) it takes about 4-6 year...Read more
Is Meta promo cycle only once a year? Meaning you only promote in December? #engineering #meta
For folks who were at fb and Google especially at promo/calibration meeting for bothcould you share compare how both approaches promo. Specifically How much emphasis on sustained impact/upward trajectory compared to google Is there an equivalent of swe ladder How does their move fast and break ...Read more
Team Blind, I’m actually asking this for a friend and I’m kind of curious too. How much time does it take on avg for a promo from E4 to E5 at FB? And how is the pay hike considered? How much pay increase? Location - SF TC - 230k #engineering #software #swe #facebookcompensation #facebook
When are Meta promos announced - is it twice a year with each perf cycle and which months? Are the months same for Google promos? #meta #google tc: 320k
Hi, recently got an offer for e4 (downlevelled) . Currently in team matching phase. I’m curious which pillar has best prospects for e5 and non 996 culture if possible Other variables are type of work (infra/growth/integrity/social impact) and audience (consumers/business/meta employees/developers) ...Read more
How much base bump to expect for a E4 to E5 promo? Does promo come with big stock refresher or additional cash bonus? TC: $190k FB TC: $270k
I have been working really hard to get promoted to my next level,despite the covid 19 situation. Do you think we will have no promotions this half or even if there are promotions, it will be very few. #promotion #career #facebook #facebookbusinessintegrity #facebookcomp
For folks who were at fb, especially at Fb promo/calibration meeting could you share how fb approaches promo. Specifically How much emphasis on sustained impact/upward trajectory like google Is there an equivalent of swe ladder How does their move fast and break things impact tech debt How rare is...Read more
Lets say my current base as e4 is 180k and 100k RSU per year. (Which I think it's pretty top band for Seattle) If I get promoted, what types of comp increase should I expect? 1) Refresher target? 2) Bonus percentage? 3) Base increase? 4) One time stock award?
How easy/tough is it to get promoted to be a manager from IC at FB? Update - it could be either a lateral move or the next level up. I was thinking of second scenario where you get promoted to the next level and get management responsibilities.
I just heard a friend of mine was promoted to E7 there. He joined as an E3 new grad in 2017. I also know multiple people who got from E3 new grad to EM in 3-4 years. Too bad it’s no longer hiring in large numbers. Perhaps it’ll be a good idea to join there when the economy recovers.
E5 TC ~380k (including refresher) YOE 2 (phd, joined as e4 and got promo) Break down of TC: base 186k Unvest stock value 520k Bonus target 15% Refresher 140k I have seen e5 hew hires getting TC 420k (I assume refresher not even included) + 100k sign on offers. Honestly this sucks, I am doing grea...Read more
what's the criteria upon which people get promotions at FB? For instance at Google it's based on Impact, Difficulty, and leadership.
How are promos at Meta, specifically E6 —->; E7 difficult or doable.
normally how much raise one gets when promoted at fb. position: software engg tc 140 yoe 4 thanks