Compensation is the biggest pro. Also, unlike other hire to fire companies (most tech companies at this point in 2024), you at least have a chance to prove yourself and are given a couple months to onboard. There are worse tech companies out there such as Amazon and Intuit, but Meta’s culture is still quite terrible. They try and justify the long hours and stress with how much you can make - Meta still pays more than any other major tech company, even in 2024, which is definitely a pro, but the culture is cutthroat and you can’t trust anyone. It would probably be easier to work two remote jobs at “less prestigious” tech or tech adjacent companies to make the same amount at Meta with more stability, better WLB, and less drama.
Pretty much the same as what one would experience at most tech companies in 2024. But some aspects are better or worse than others. Long hours. WLB is highly team dependent. Apparently Meta used to be a lot better in this regard, but now not so much. It is intense, but if you have startup experience, it is at least less intense than that. And again, it is more fair than a place like Amazon. Office politics are a thing at all tech companies, but a little more extreme at Meta. Blame and shame culture is big. People are snakes and are prepared to throw even the newest and most vulnerable employees under the bus to save their own skins. This makes things quite unfair, but as long as you’re proactive and document everything thoroughly, you’re at least given a chance to refute these attacks. A lot of gossip and backstabbing. This is separate from and still related to PSC culture, which everyone complains about. Management is terrible overall. Sometimes there is micromanagement. One of the few companies where it’s possible you’ll have a manager younger than you, even if you’re only 27-31ish. Often ICs seem to be held accountable for things that are way beyond their day-to-day scope - basically things that are ultimately the fault of leadership and management. Management frequently tries to pin things on their employees. Your manager is often trying to screw you, and if they can’t find a way, they are often trying to invent things you did wrong. This isn’t a dealbreaker because as long as you’re doing your job, it is easy to refute, but it creates a ton of work because you have to be extremely well-organized and have documented every interaction with your manager colleagues. I recommend studying employment law / consulting with an employment lawyer early on in your tenure at Meta, so you know what to look for. Because it is a massive tech company, you are there to please your manager and make them look good, so you need to do pretty much whatever they say. there’s a lot of internal conflict because it’s very authoritarian, also fairly draconian, and it’s bottoms up at the same time, every man for themselves. Do everything your manager says and it is somehow still all up to you as an individual employee to make the company successful. To top it all off, your colleagues suck too. People brag about work that YOU did as being THEIR work that THEY did if it is successful. If a project involving multiple people is so much as an hour late, then YOU are blamed, even if you had nothing to do with the lateness. The lateness itself isn’t really the problem because guess what? It’s not anything is broken. Except for when things do break and the whole app crashes for a day because everyone is forced to focus on office politics instead of their actual work. it’s not really about the value you create, so much as it is the PERCEIVED value you create and whether or not your manager likes you. Ergo, a lot of bootlicking charlatans make it to the top.
Had a pretty crap interview experience. A “recruiter” called me from a call center, recorded our call, and asked technical questions off script. Most questions were pretty similar to my interview last year but wtf… they didn’t know if they were right or wrong, they had no opinion, I may have been t...Read more
Before Covid US Citizens : H1Bs are cheap labor. They're taking our jobs. Remove H1B. H1Bs: We are not cheap! Post Covid US citizens: Jobs are moving to asia. Stop outsourcing. H1Bs: +1 #wayfair #google #ebay #walmart #meta #amazon
Hearing rumors that facebook may be increasing outsourcing of some internal work. who are those vendors and has anyone applied for such work?
Hi, Do you also notice that most new openings in your company are outsourced abroad to India, EU countries etc? Or is it just Uber cutting costs? Basically less and less new positions open in the US It's no fun to have a team across like 5 timezones especially with RTO in place #tech outsourcing ...Read more
I'm debating if I should take a contract job at MSFT. I got approached by a recruiter from an Indian outsourcing company called KTRIAN. The role is ML engineer. The rate is actually not bad, $45/hour with (probably shitty) benefits. Fyi, I was a new grad MLE at Meta for 5 months. Thoughts? I'm on O...Read more
Hi! We all know that such companies as Google, Facebook are ready to relocate engineers from other countries making for them H1 visas or L (offering work in European offices before). Would be great to make a list of such companies - who else is doing it but Google and Facebook. Can we make this lis...Read more
I see many people saying Google etc outsourcing their work to India , but their niche lab based work remains in US/ HQ . I have been trying to look for FPGA hardware and lab openings, Google , Msft, Apple and Meta have openings specially more in vision pro and reality labs, but none are in India , a...Read more
Is it me or has anyone else noticed sudden rise in contract positions? A friend working in bay area mentioned they got few new projects from meta.They could have used the same resources to do the task rather going ahead with layoff ?? Is it like in general after layoff companies do outsourcing even ...Read more
While I was looking for job few months ago, I observed many companies including indian outsourcing companies like tcs, wipro and infy and other small to mid companies as well do not entertain H1B. Only citizens, green card holders and h4 ead were allowed. So only option I had was big product compani...Read more
Hi All, I got laid off last week. Using a friend’s profile as my official email is already locked. Based out of India and was working at an outsourcing firm. Was working at a Non-Tech role focused on Corporate Strategy, Process Improvement and Product Management. YOE : 5 years ( 2 years post MB...Read more
For technical leadership roles (Eng Dir, Staff Eng/Arch, Principal Eng/Arch, etc) we're seeing internal technical bar programs -- eg Amazon's Bar Raiser. It's frustrating for seasoned engineers to take a coding test but there needs to be a way to filter out unqualified candidates from a very large ...Read more
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2023/07/31/accenture-cuts-almost-one-in-seven-irish-staff/ Outsourcing group Accenture has announced plans to axe another 890 jobs in Ireland, just weeks after 400 staff departed in an earlier job cull even as the multinational group says its Irish business conti...Read more
Looks like many Americans don't have a clear picture on H1-B. There's two sides of things --- 1. Many of us are from top universities in India, came for graduate studies to US (or even directly got hired from India by companies like Google/FB) etc... and do some great engineering/research work at a...Read more
https://www.wsj.com/articles/next-wave-of-remote-work-is-about-outsourcing-jobs-overseas-54af39ba Because of folks like that Meta PM Riley Rojas and other entitled folks who want everything under the sun - high TC, WFH (preferable at LCOL), 20 hour work weeks, covid vacation days, togo boxes, massa...Read more
I've applied to about 30 companies in the past three months (some with and some without a referral) and haven't secured an interview call yet. I'm 36, have 8 YOE in software (last 5 in software) and 6 YOE in entrepreneurship and I work at a second-tier Indian outsourcing company. I understand I trig...Read more
Let me explain. Silicon Valley in the last decade looked at avenues of growth at breakneck pace to attract investments and ended up with paradigms which led to disruption of old economy and old monies. They’d rather have liked digital economies to just enhance their current business (like the insipi...Read more
Currently SDE2 (2 yoe) but most of the experience is related to Game Development! Zynga India is really outsourcing of dead games for maintenance and feature addition! Had difficulty getting interviews due to Zynga resume until Navi! Couldn't crack Navi SDE2 because of lack of preparation and prior...Read more
If you want to understand the biggest problem in Canadian tech right now, ask someone who jumped from a Canadian company to an American one how their life has changed. You’ll probably get one of two answers. One of them is about money. A Toronto-based engineer who spoke to The Globe and Mail recentl...Read more