Compensation is the biggest pro. Also, unlike other hire to fire companies (most tech companies at this point in 2024), you at least have a chance to prove yourself and are given a couple months to onboard. There are worse tech companies out there such as Amazon and Intuit, but Meta’s culture is still quite terrible. They try and justify the long hours and stress with how much you can make - Meta still pays more than any other major tech company, even in 2024, which is definitely a pro, but the culture is cutthroat and you can’t trust anyone. It would probably be easier to work two remote jobs at “less prestigious” tech or tech adjacent companies to make the same amount at Meta with more stability, better WLB, and less drama.
Pretty much the same as what one would experience at most tech companies in 2024. But some aspects are better or worse than others. Long hours. WLB is highly team dependent. Apparently Meta used to be a lot better in this regard, but now not so much. It is intense, but if you have startup experience, it is at least less intense than that. And again, it is more fair than a place like Amazon. Office politics are a thing at all tech companies, but a little more extreme at Meta. Blame and shame culture is big. People are snakes and are prepared to throw even the newest and most vulnerable employees under the bus to save their own skins. This makes things quite unfair, but as long as you’re proactive and document everything thoroughly, you’re at least given a chance to refute these attacks. A lot of gossip and backstabbing. This is separate from and still related to PSC culture, which everyone complains about. Management is terrible overall. Sometimes there is micromanagement. One of the few companies where it’s possible you’ll have a manager younger than you, even if you’re only 27-31ish. Often ICs seem to be held accountable for things that are way beyond their day-to-day scope - basically things that are ultimately the fault of leadership and management. Management frequently tries to pin things on their employees. Your manager is often trying to screw you, and if they can’t find a way, they are often trying to invent things you did wrong. This isn’t a dealbreaker because as long as you’re doing your job, it is easy to refute, but it creates a ton of work because you have to be extremely well-organized and have documented every interaction with your manager colleagues. I recommend studying employment law / consulting with an employment lawyer early on in your tenure at Meta, so you know what to look for. Because it is a massive tech company, you are there to please your manager and make them look good, so you need to do pretty much whatever they say. there’s a lot of internal conflict because it’s very authoritarian, also fairly draconian, and it’s bottoms up at the same time, every man for themselves. Do everything your manager says and it is somehow still all up to you as an individual employee to make the company successful. To top it all off, your colleagues suck too. People brag about work that YOU did as being THEIR work that THEY did if it is successful. If a project involving multiple people is so much as an hour late, then YOU are blamed, even if you had nothing to do with the lateness. The lateness itself isn’t really the problem because guess what? It’s not anything is broken. Except for when things do break and the whole app crashes for a day because everyone is forced to focus on office politics instead of their actual work. it’s not really about the value you create, so much as it is the PERCEIVED value you create and whether or not your manager likes you. Ergo, a lot of bootlicking charlatans make it to the top.
TC: 370K 215/125/30 #pip #facebook
looks like 14.5-16.5% are gonna be bottom bucketed :( https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-layoffs-doubles-target-lowest-performance-ratings-non-regrettable-attrition-2022-12 #tech
Heard from a friend that in Facebook, one gets PIP if you get two consecutive Meets Most rating? He related a story in spite of one person being given top amongst all ppl in Technical and Direction, for People dimension, just because couple of team members felt defensive when he would advice on som...Read more
Hi Blinders, Does Meta also have a PIP culture? If yes, how does it compare to Amazon? YOE 20 TC 300
Blind makes it seem like Amazon PIPs are the worst of the industry. However, seems like other FAANG companies also have PIP processes, just less publicized. Is Amzn’s PIP process that much worse than FB?#engineering #software #swe #facebook #amazon #fb #amzn #pip
This is in response to this post that is going around Check out this post! "What’s Meta’s pip %? (Tech Industry)" https://www.teamblind.com/us/s/Tz2XgUd1 Two back to back MM at Meta doesn’t mean PIP. I know that’s a usual understanding. But here’s the details. One of my friend, actual he became...Read more
I mean it is brutal right? 10k people don’t meet expectations? It is consistent layoff then.
New grad. Stripe TC: ~215k. FB TC: ~180k. Which has worse PIP culture? Or is it similar? Which has better WLB on avg? #stripe #facebook
Hi there.. I am trying to understand if PIP culture exists at Meta. I have heard if someone gets two Meets Most in Meta it leads to severance or PIP. Which one is it? Can someone clarify
Wanted to share my experience on META PIP. I was less than 12 months in the organization. When I joined the return to office rules were not enforced thus everyone was working from home. The culture in my team at meta was that new joiners will pick up the work they want to represent. I observed that...Read more
A recruiter has reached out a couple of times with a Metaverse product marketing job. Currently work at Microsoft where my job is stable and secure, but unfulfilling and dull with minimal career progression. I came here from Amazon where I saw too many good people fired just to meet PIP quotas, and ...Read more
How is the PIP culture in Facebook Seattle? Is it really as bad as people make it sound on Blind? EDIT: Also, please dont compare to Amazon. Amazon is no where near as bad as people make it seem.
How does the PIP policy work at Facebook? Is it as brutal as Amazon in terms of mass hire and mass fire?
I was recently going through some FB reviews. I read somewhere on glassdoor that each team has to pick some employees to be placed in PIP every quarter or every other quarter, even if all members are doing decently well. Is it true? It's relevant to me because I was considering to join Fb in a coup...Read more
Heard from my FB buddy saying that FB pip rate isn’t as high as Amazon. At FB: 1. You know you have to get promoted from E3 to E4 in 24 month and E4 to E5 in 33 month 2. New hires ramping up at E5 is hard You actually know if you can hit the target and if you don’t people leave by themselves and...Read more
Figured I’d post my experience being “performance coached” and then eventually accepting a severance offer as an L4 SWE at fb. My last day is June 4 About 2 months ago my manager told me that my performance was basically not up to par (had received MM (meets most) two halves already, and the curren...Read more
hey, facebook friends. I received an M1 offer and thinking about joining, but the pip stories are concerning. - Have people seen M1 piped? - What have they done that caused it? - What was the timeframe to pip? current TC: ~$450 fb TC: ~$540
https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/mark-zuckerberg-issues-dire-economic-warning-to-meta-employees-11656781950 Be ready for mass PIP from Facebook. For anyone making fun of Amazon, this is nothing. Have already heard some teams URA to be close to 20% from a D2. Quote from Zuckerberg: “Realistica...Read more
What is the PIP culture like at FB London. I have an offer from G India and FB London, Nd trying to make an informed decision. Offer: L5 Base 101K GBP RSU 260K USD #facebook #facebookpip