CompensationDec 17, 2018
Intelyszi80

[HW] Google not matching Apple offer

Hi, - 6 yoe in HW validation - interviewed at Apple, got an offer for L4 [170k/160k/35k] - got interviewed at Google for their Consumer HW team Google recruiter said the interview feedback is largely positive and they would want to move ahead with offer after HC review, but said it won't be anywhere near 170k base. They asked me whether I still want to move ahead with 120k-130k base range. Is this common? Anyone else had experienced similar situation?

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Google merin Dec 17, 2018

They will match you in total comp. Balance will be in RSU.

Qualcomm rbo Dec 17, 2018

is this ASIC

Intel yszi80 OP Dec 17, 2018

Yes, consumer hardware for ASIC Validation

Oracle zackberger Dec 17, 2018

I didn't know hardware with 6 yoe only gets what swe new grad would get. Fuck that's unfair.

Google Huhf13 Dec 17, 2018

L4 is not new grad

Amazon NoStranger Dec 17, 2018

Where does a swe new grad get a 170K base.. what kind of willy wonka world do you live in

Autodesk DouP01 Dec 17, 2018

Lol wow shame on google for not treating their HW people well. This is why their HW market share is so low

Intel UGeJ58 Dec 17, 2018

Oh, they are really doing badly by staying out of the HW market? The capital investment is ridiculous and that is why HW doesn't get paid. I spend >500k ~2-3 years for equipment if it's high end electronics. I make a company less than a SW engineer. *edit: a team of 3-5 may require that money. Beyond 3-5, extra purchases are made or it becomes the construction industry with 1 shovel and 7 people

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goodgulf Dec 18, 2018

Shame on Qualcomm for treating their SWEs like garbage. It cuts both ways. And Google is NOT staying out of the hardware market their data center board designs make them ~#5 on Earth computer maker. But if you want to build consumer products China has sucked all the living wages from that market ....

Intel plebHW->SW Dec 17, 2018

You might be getting L3. I know HW ladder is up to 15% less, so you might still be L4, but not sure. You should take Apple - Apple ICT4 is Google L5 equivalent

Intel yszi80 OP Dec 17, 2018

I am more inclined towards google just because liked the position I interviewed for..but not sure leveling down and less tc is worth it

Qualcomm ic-rf Dec 17, 2018

It’s seems to be common for Google to downlevel people because they know everyone is eager to work there. It’s never worth accepting a downwlevel just to work at Google. It’s a stepback in your career. They tried to do the same with me knowing I already had offer in hand. I declined their offer and took the other job. No regrets.

Google merin Dec 17, 2018

Sounds like you got L3 at Google. They usually don't negotiate level but you can definitely get them to match Apple L4 on pay.

Nvidia monolith Dec 17, 2018

That is an awesome Offer from Apple Though.

Apple oil god Dec 17, 2018

Come to Apple. You’ll do the best work of your life here

Intel gyrados Dec 17, 2018

On my way

Qualcomm ic-rf Dec 17, 2018

Go to Apple. Google got into HW without realizing how much 💰💰💰 developing HW costs in terms of equipment and engineering. They’ve started cost saving measures by focusing their hiring in Taiwan rather than the US. Check their job postings. It won’t surprise me that they downsize their HW teams sometime from now

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goodgulf Dec 18, 2018

They bought HTC. The supposed "AI" in the phone is nothing of the sort! It's a signal processing chip custom design in silicon valley, by my roommate's brother and others. when they can think of a new value-add they will do the design work in silicon valley!

Cisco Wakeup Dec 17, 2018

It’s pretty clear you should go to apple.