Google L4 offer Negotiation / Decline

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codecook

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codecook
Sep 4, 2020 38 Comments

I got a google Bangalore L4 offer

Base 20L
Sign on 4L
Bonus 15%
Stocks 27L

TC 53 L

Start up Competing offer
65L

YOE 8

1. Any pointers as to how I can negotiate more from here with google? If i decline the offer will they try to match my Competing offer?

2. Can i decline the offer and go back to google again with in a year(if i dont like the start up). In that case will they reinterview or just team match will do? same HC approved offer be valid?

PS: I KNOW ITS A LOWBALL OFFER, I AM SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR ANSWERS FOR ABOVE 2 QUESTIONS.

Please advice/help.

#google #googlel4

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TOP 38 Comments
  • You are probably mistaken about the level. The base for L4 starts at 27. Ref: I got an L4 offer sometime back with 4 years of experience and without any negotiation or counter offer, the initial offer had 27 base.

    1. Since it is surely an L3 offer, you can negotiate at max 2L more in base.
    2. Offcourse you can decline and interview again in an year (maybe less). You won't have to give the first phone interview. Same HC approval is valid for a few months, if you are not able to get a team match right now. Otherwise, it will expire
    Sep 5, 2020 12
  • Amazon
    harami_1

    Go to company page Amazon

    harami_1
    1. Yes, you should negotiate using your startup offer. Worst case, google recruiter may say, no dude, this is the maximum we can offer, no extra.

    2. No. Your offer won't stand once your negotiation doesn't work. Google recruiter will definitely ask you about your final call and after that they will start looking for another candidate in the pipeline.

    Now, it clearly seems from your post and comments that you are obsessed with the google and honestly anyone would be. You are not willing to take chance against this opportunity as well. At the end 53L is not a bad package either, at your YOE. If Google is your dream company then don't think too much about money and go for it. Work hard there and try to expedite on your promotion path. In fact, if I would be at your place, I would join google for sure, and then if not satisfied then would be trying somewhere else. It's easy to crack other companies than Google. Enjoy free lunch and a great company culture buddy. If things doesn't work for you then you can switch any day in these startups or any other big company.

    One small edit: Regarding comp comparison, very high probability that 27L google stocks today may become 35 or 40 L in one or 2 years from here. So think a little long term w.r.t comp as well.

    Cheers!
    Sep 4, 2020 2
    • best advice. ever.
      Sep 5, 2020
    • Jivox
      bashti

      Jivox

      bashti
      @harami_1 about point 2, not necessarily the same team. but i have seen blind posts where I have seen people joining back with in a year in a different team though. but they dint have re interview. because their previous HC data still was valid.
      probably OP is asking that.
      Sep 5, 2020
  • If you get google offer now, possibly later too. Enjoy the startup
    Sep 4, 2020 7
    • Amazon / Eng
      nanas

      Go to company page Amazon Eng

      nanas
      Isn't that the only case? I mean you either accept and join. Or decline and don't join.
      Sep 5, 2020
    • Jivox
      bashti

      Jivox

      bashti
      true, so declining doesnt have any consequences.
      Sep 5, 2020
  • Facebook / Eng
    change42

    Go to company page Facebook Eng

    change42
    L3 with 8 YOE! They just dont want to reject candidates in India these days.
    Sep 5, 2020 0
  • Google / Eng
    7msd7

    Go to company page Google Eng

    7msd7
    No way this is an L4 offer. This a good L3 offer but with your YOE, don't join! Decline and try again after some time. Your HC approval will help you later for an actual L4 offer an year down the line
    Sep 5, 2020 0