Scope: Amazon L6 vs Snap L5 vs Google L5

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imJassy

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imJassy
Mar 27 10 Comments

I am an L6 at Amazon. There are only 2 L6 for ~40 engineers across 3 teams under the senior manager. So from that standpoint the scope of work is huge. I get to influence around 3 teams.

Now I started interviewing at other companies who are for sure paying a huge amount of money but the scope of work seems to be small. The Uber team I was talking to have 60% engineers as 5A. So that certainly seems to have a very small scope.

What about companies like Snap and Google?

Snap particularly seems to match Amazon L6 as per the levels.fyi but generally how many L5 are present in one team of 8-10 engineers?

Same for Google, how many L5 are present in one team of 8-10 engineers?

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  • VTEX
    Vdbe40

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    Vdbe40
    This is the dream. Less scope for more money. 😍
    Mar 27 2
    • Amazon / Eng
      Phone Tool

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       Phone Tool
      Why though? Career wise it's regressive?
      Mar 27
    • VTEX
      Vdbe40

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      Vdbe40
      If you are good, it’s not about the volume of people in your org. The challenge often plays a significant role in a career progression.

      IMHO, You are only looking at one variable. Try to get more context about what will be the challenge and the business in which you will be involved. Are you will have room to evolve on the career ladder? This is the crucial point to explore with your future leader(if you had the opportunity to talk before accepting an offer).
      Mar 27
  • Google
    $6 gas 😱😱😱

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    $6 gas 😱😱😱
    Varies by team at G. Could be 1-2 of that 8-10, could even be half of them at L5. All depends on what that team is doing.
    Scope is impact of work, not always correlated to number of other_engineers
    Mar 27 0
  • Meta
    gjdksl

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    gjdksl
    If you influenced 3 teams as an L6 in Amazon, definitely target L6 at G/E6 at Meta or the equivalent in other companies, as this is similar in scope to what you did in Amazon. I myself switched from L6 in Amazon to E6 at Meta, and really enjoy the scope. I turned down an L5 offer from G as the scope seemed so small compared to what I had in Amazon, and really happy about this decision now that I work at Meta.
    Mar 27 2
    • Amazon
      imJassy

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      imJassy
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      How many YOE did you have when you applied? I consider this just as a number but somehow recruiters seem to be obsessed with this.
      Mar 27
    • Meta
      gjdksl

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      gjdksl
      I had PhD + 4YOE. G's recruiters notoriously known for downleveling, so I didn't have luck with them as well pushing beyond L5. In Facebook they initially interviewed me for 5/6 loop, and once I cleared the E5 level, they did some follow-up interviews which specifically targeted E6 signals.
      Mar 28
  • Microsoft / Eng
    isensei

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     isensei
    Don't have a good answer but just wanted to put my thought out: percentage of people with similar level shouldn't be a good proxy for scope as each company+org+team+project make up a pretty unique organizational layout. for example, i rarely interact with my direct peers as I am doing cross org stuff most of the time so looking at our org chart you will be fooled that our scopes are narrow, or an even better example is Netflix (almost everyone is a sr) so maybe you want to ask each team about the scope of the most recent project directly to have a better idea
    Mar 27 2