12 YOE looking for Career Guidance

Dec 10, 2019 81 Comments

Need ur inputs on the Career progression. Have 12 YOE as Full stack Engineer , primarily back end and middleware . Most of my carrer was in Consulting lead many projects primarily on Java, Spring and Aws platform. Have many certification on Java and AWS. Current TC is 155k. Most of colleagues see me as Technically strong and smart. Not sure if my potential is FAANG smart though.

didnt know abt compensation in top toer companies untill recently and figured tat i am being underpaid and with some intense preperation i could land offer in Tier 1 or 2 companies. So started LC 6 months back , 2 hrs a day in average but could not do on a daily basis with 2 young kids . Have done 80 easy and 25 Medium and lot of sustem design and some EPI. i am comfortable in System design as i have always learnt them in the side but DS/Algo needs some more prep. Taking 1 hr to solve LC Mediums whixh means needs lot more prep.

With all the prep, Got an offer recently with VZM/Oath with 220 TC in Maryland. Wondering should i take it as it has good WLB and decent TC ( ofc not at FAANG level) . I am thinking of taking this offer and keep preparing and switch to Tier 1 in near future as I am on H1b with I140 approved and with VZM/Yahoo on resume. . Other option is to reject this offer, keep preparing and get in to Tier 1 in next 6 to 8 months. But i am always worried abt WLB in Tier 1 companies with young kids. Let me know what u guys think.

Note: This new position is just 30 mins from where I am staying. So leaning towards taking up this position.

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  • Google / Eng cloudy sky
    In the FAANG group if you want WLB, I’d guess you’re probably only looking at Google. Outside of FAANG, I hear Microsoft has good WLB.

    Sounds like a good offer for now, especially in the East coast where it’ll go farther.
    Dec 10, 2019 21
    • StockX / Eng cockydev
      You guys are so dumb. FAANG+ gets you a foot in the door that other companies wouldn’t.
      Dec 11, 2019
    • Google tester22
      Is apple wlb more similar to google/msft or amazon/fb?
      Dec 11, 2019
  • Groupon space-cat
    Before saying this sounds too harsh, disclaimer that I am in the same boat as you.

    I feel like Tier 1 and 2 interviews will be more toward the hard/medium to hard range of LC. If you are still having a lot of trouble with mediums on that much prep I don't know that more prep will get you to the levels of optimizing hards in 45 min.

    That said, I have kids as well, and I would WAY prefer a mediocre company with decent pay and great WLB. Everything I hear about FAANG is how young kids get overworked and spit back out. For older engineers like us I don't think the ROI is there for the damage it can potentially do to your personal life.

    Just my 2 cents
    Dec 11, 2019 4
    • Nielsen awJP67
      OP
      You put it in a better way and my thoughts are same. With 12YOE I will be happy in Tier 3 company and good WLB than the Tier 1 with worst WLB. Still thinking of insane TC in FAANG, itching to try them out. Not sure whether I will get into them but don’t want to regret later without trying.
      Dec 11, 2019
    • Amazon tttalsiyeb
      Google doesn’t fire those staying in L4 for 10 years? FB fires them in 2 years and Amazon will PiP
      Dec 11, 2019
  • Microsoft Itjw36
    Pm me your info. We are looking for full stack cloud developers.
    Dec 11, 2019 0
  • Microsoft / Product Letsdoitt
    40% jump in the TC is good enough reason to join VZM, focus on your job for 6 months, and start interviewing again. Also, keep in mind, these inflated TCs are largely west coast phenomenon, East coast and rest of the regions are normal.
    Dec 11, 2019 4
  • Google SundarPich
    220K is the top 2% of salary in the US. FAANG is a small percentage of the population, and it isn't always perfect.

    You'll be able to live a great life in MD with that income. Enjoy it!
    Dec 11, 2019 2
    • New
      Habibty

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      Practical perspective & advice 👍🏼
      Dec 11, 2019
    • Nielsen awJP67
      OP
      I always wonder should I try FAANG or Tier 1 - For TC and kind of tech problem they get to work in . Salaries posted here for FAANG are insane and tat makes me wonder if I shudder give it a try only if tat provide decent WLB and satisfaction.
      Dec 11, 2019
  • WLB in tier 1 varies, but nothing to be scared of.

    220K is not bad, If you like the work and project. Rather than trying after 6-8 months, be with new job for 6-8 months and then try for FAANG; by the time you can join it will be a year
    Dec 10, 2019 0
  • Google
    Bogleheads

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    Bogleheadsmore
    Your leetcode ratio seems kind weird to me. I think you probably need more mediums.
    Dec 11, 2019 3
    • Airbnb liFu43
      Most of the questions you'll see at FAANG companies are medium/hard, probably

      I found focusing on one 'category' of question at a time helped
      Dec 11, 2019
    • Facebook meat boy
      I did the same thing when I was preparing for intern interviews - mediums and hards were difficult so I kept grinding easys until they got easier.

      They never got easier. Once you understand the basics (which I'm sure you do) by far the best way to get better at the difficult problems is to practice the difficult problems.

      Starting them feels painful, but challenging yourself almost always is 😇
      Dec 11, 2019
  • VMware gurubhai
    Bird in hand... take the 220k. Nobody is going to scrutinize you for leaving for a fang in 6 months.
    Dec 11, 2019 2
    • AOL CwXk65
      This. But the problem is, once you go to Yahoo, you will not turn back. So much better wlb
      Dec 11, 2019
    • Oath rippppp
      It's a good retirement home, plus 220k at Baltimore, Md is pretty good.
      Dec 11, 2019
  • Amazon / Eng OlAl28
    It's insane to me that I make as much as someone with 12 yoe having only 2...FANG for the win
    Dec 11, 2019 7
    • Nielsen awJP67
      OP
      I know and tats the reason why I want try out Tier 1 companies. I did my college and first 4 years of work in India and didn’t know the salary range for Tier1 untill recently.
      Dec 11, 2019
    • Amazon / Eng OlAl28
      Also, reading your comments elsewhere on this thread. Don't worry about measuring up. When you get there you're going to have to learn a lot no matter what your current skill level is. Just join knowing that and being willing to work hard, learn, and put in the hours and you'll be fine. Not all of us are walking around solving LC hard problems all day.
      Dec 11, 2019
  • Microsoft / Product Letsdoitt
    Try MICROSOFT, great company to work for, respectful, they don’t overwork their employees, insane amount of flexibility for parents.
    Dec 11, 2019 4
    • Microsoft / Product Letsdoitt
      Great for new grads as well, you will get time to ramp up and opportunity to learn the discipline, HMs are generally very patient with new hires and groom them well. As someone pointed out, there are certainly pockets where WLB is worst than other teams. However, you can find pockets where you can grind and grow fast, as well as pockets where you can grow at a normal pace and maintain decent WLB. The culture transformation is for real, HMs can’t abuse their powers, people now have voice to call them out which was not the case in earlier days.
      Dec 11, 2019
    • Microsoft msft235
      Agree with what letsdoitt says
      Dec 11, 2019

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