13 Years Recruiting SWEs for tech startups in SF + LA - AMA!

Cadre Talent / Other
ct2020

Cadre Talent Other

BIO
13 years running a boutique tech recruiting firm helping startups hire software engineers
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Dec 5, 2019 404 Comments

I’m a founder and CEO of a tech recruiting agency that’s been around for more than 13 years. I’ve gotten to work with thousands of companies and many more thousands of engineers over the years. Here are some areas where I can provide some advice:

-How do I know if a recruiter is the real deal?
-Misinformation about interviewing and what hiring managers are really looking for?
-Strategies for negotiating the best offer.
-How to optimize your job search / interview processes

I’m open to answering anything related to recruiting within my knowledge! I’m also aware that our industry has a mixed reputation and I wanted to post this AMA to shed some light.

Ask Me Anything!

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Thank you all so much for your earnest questions! We’re happy to connect with you further and hear out any additional questions and help you land your next opportunity.

We can be reached at info@yourcadre.com

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  • Facebook aMmmLC
    My brother just graduated from a coding bootcamp but he's pretty worried about how that'll be perceived by employers. What’s the perception of engineering bootcamp grads?
    Dec 5, 2019 13
    • Google souledMonk
      Bootcamp grads don't have experience with scale and fresh college grads do?
      Dec 5, 2019
    • OfferUp ickub3z
      I attended a foreign bootcamp, language wasn't an issue.

      The problem with American bootcamps aren't that they're not "formal education" per se, but that they're too fluffy.

      My bootcamp lasted 7 months, Monday through Saturday, 9am to 9pm. 72 hours a week x 28 weeks straight. Took me from nothing through the full stack process. Gathering requirements, designing DB, back end services, front end, and cloud.

      We finished by working with local companies that wanted a free website and we got practical experience.

      Honestly speaking I've had no real issues getting past interviews and offers... (Getting the interview is a different story, most see the word bootcamp and pass up my resume)
      Dec 5, 2019
  • New / Eng
    iOSEng

    New Eng

    PRE
    Snapchat
    iOSEngmore
    How do I get into FAANGMULA without Leetcode ?
    Dec 5, 2019 14
    • Google swinglyf
      That’s a lot of ORs 🙄
      Dec 6, 2019
    • @cool-kid that’s not true anymore, I recently(this past weeks) interviewed at Amazon for a 6 months contract position: 2 interviews 4 questions no LP

      First Interview
      - find missing value in a range of numbers. I solved in logn time
      - combination sum. I solved with recursion + caching and explain the DP solution

      Second Interview
      - design a ds with add, remove get random in constant time. That’s an easy problem if you know the trick
      - Generate all subsets of a set. Solved this with 10 minutes to spare

      No PL

      Verdict: no hire
      Dec 11, 2019
  • Microsoft jazzer
    What are the best pre-ipo companies where swe’s are flocking to?
    Dec 5, 2019 4
    • Cadre Talent / Other
      ct2020

      Cadre Talent Other

      BIO
      13 years running a boutique tech recruiting firm helping startups hire software engineers
      ct2020more
      OP
      Altruistism is hot right now!! We are seeing VC money flowing to healthcare, EdTech, GreenTech and other altruistic verticals. We often talk to people who want to make a positive, lasting impact on the world and there are a lot of opportunities to do so in tech. Often, our engineering candidates have done very well financially and are more in position to take chances on moonshot ideas. Money is less of a motivator whereas helping others, society or the environment, does motivate them. As technology expands, so does its ability to help others. Getting paid to make the world a better place is a win-win in most people’s book!
      Dec 5, 2019
    • OpenTable AKeC54
      Is there a good place to find a list of altruistic companies in any of those verticals?
      Dec 5, 2019
  • Amazon ISBgfq
    How DO you know a recruiter is the real deal?
    Dec 5, 2019 2
    • Cadre Talent / Other
      ct2020

      Cadre Talent Other

      BIO
      13 years running a boutique tech recruiting firm helping startups hire software engineers
      ct2020more
      OP
      Assuming this is the first point of contact: Was it a personalized reach out? Did they acknowledge your background accurately? Did they pitch you a role that seems relevant (stack ,location, vertical)? Did they sound knowledgeable on the phone to add value to your search? Are they talking at you or with you? Does it feel like a conversation or an interrogation? Are they transparent? Do they know the in’s and out’s of the particular job they are pitching? They should never come off as merely a lead generator for a company.
      Dec 5, 2019
    • ADP / Mgmt
      Runner131

      ADP Mgmt

      BIO
      I call myself "Damage Control" as I turnaround poor performance of others and get results.
      Runner131more
      Treating a candidate like a person rather than a commodity should be on that list. After the technical prowess, the ability to be likeable and make a candidate feel like a champion for the right role.
      Dec 5, 2019
  • Cisco / Eng 12th 👨🏻
    Why are recruiters so stupid?
    Dec 6, 2019 18
    • Cruise Automation MarryB
      Worth noting, Cisco has never been a hiring manager.
      Dec 7, 2019
    • Booking.com / Eng BookingEmp
      @uber
      Yes

      No - but lmao who do you think you are ? Recruiters designing org structures? God complex much.

      No - but again at most companies recruiters have no say in how much money the candidate gets. In fact most candiates would prefer to negotiate with a person who actually has power to pay more, rather than a useless middlewoman.

      Yes, and I can’t wait. The biggest problem in recruting today is that nobody reviews their decisions (and they don’t know anything about tech), they can reject a perfectly good candidate for no reason and suffer no consequences. Taht will change in the future once we implement monitoring systems that monitor decisions and actions of recruiters - and then promote / fire them bases on performance.
      Dec 19, 2019
  • FormFactor Tove1
    I dont have a CS background but I am an industrial engineer I work with data analysis, statistics and software Development but every time I submit my resume for Data Engineer/ Scientist or SWE i dont get reply. Can you tell me if because of my non CS background?
    Dec 5, 2019 6
    • FormFactor Tove1
      Thanks these replies are very helpful! I actually work also with JS, PHP and MySQL I already automated some task/ reports with NodeJS and Pentaho
      Dec 5, 2019
    • Atlassian d@t_person
      There in lies the problem with u securing DE interviews. Most of that tech is not being used by modern DEs at modern tech firms in the Bay Area, Seattle, Austin, and NYC
      Dec 5, 2019
  • Google EptSUw
    Since you work both SF Bay and LA Markets, what differentiators do you see in the hiring process and/or founders running these companies?
    Dec 5, 2019 1
    • Cadre Talent / Other
      ct2020

      Cadre Talent Other

      BIO
      13 years running a boutique tech recruiting firm helping startups hire software engineers
      ct2020more
      OP
      LA: Startups tend to value culture, individuality and are willing to take risks on raw potential. LA has more first time founders. Interview processes tend to be more individualized to the company, meaning there might be more variation from company to company with the interview steps they require.

      SF: Startups tend to value education, pedigree, work experience/reputable engineering organizations. There is a more standardized interview process (intro, tech, onsite) and companies tend to have built out internal recruiting teams with an emphasis on metrics + conversions. SF has more founders that come from FAANG companies and/or prior exits under their belts. This makes sense due to the maturity of the Bay Area market.
      Dec 5, 2019
  • OSIsoft RoHO31
    I have a deadline on another offer but I haven’t heard back from my top choice -- what should I do?
    Dec 5, 2019 3
    • Facebook aPrQ76
      Also it’s not the most ethical thing to do but you can always accept an offer and go with your top choice if they eventually extend you an offer. Again as I said it’s a little unethical and might burn a bridge, but it’s more important for you to find the right job, than it’s for the company to hire you specifically.
      Dec 5, 2019
    • SolarWinds AnEngineer
      I don't really see how that's unethical. No company would hesitate to let you go after making an offer if they had to suddenly downsize
      Dec 5, 2019
  • Expedia Group MODU44
    Three weeks ago I had an on-site interview and the company recruiter said he would be in touch in a few weeks. I emailed him yesterday but no reply on status following onsite interviews. What could be going on? How should I approach this? Eager for a status.
    Dec 5, 2019 4
    • Amazon JTEk81
      It’s normal to get ghosted by recruiters. I was ghosted countless times until I finally got an SDE I role at Amazon.
      Dec 5, 2019
    • Nordstrom / Eng tikimon
      It's frequent, but not normal or acceptable.
      Dec 5, 2019
  • Amazon Dr. Jones
    I never work with 3rd party recruiters, why should I?
    Dec 5, 2019 6
    • Cadre Talent rikkibop
      We typically work with everything from seed-stage to pre-IPO teams that don't have the internal recruiting/HR infrastructure in place needed to handle a growing team. There are other recruiting agencies that have different focuses.
      Dec 5, 2019
    • Deloitte JAdv62
      How to find some legitimate 3rd party recruiters?
      Dec 5, 2019

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