Salesforce Fucked Me

Capital One / Eng
younggunz

Go to company page Capital One Eng

younggunz
Jun 8, 2021 686 Comments

I had a verbal offer from Salesforce for 145k + 10% bonus annually.
I told them I had wanted 160k and if possible a sign on bonus, they had me do 1 more call after I said this and then took the offer away.
Is this common practice?
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  • It's normal. Your feedback was borderline or was low in a certain area. They probed it and confirmed original suspicion.
    Jun 8, 2021 12
    • Does not matter, atleast he will have something unless he is actually not desperate
      Jun 10, 2021
    • Amazon / Eng
      wawY45

      Go to company page Amazon Eng

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      Apple
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      I'm a no-man.
      wawY45
      Depends on how you ask that you want more — you have to be flexible and vague enough to not reveal all your cards, and not make it seem like you aren't appreciative of the offer.

      I had an offer pulled up once because I was really stupid, lacked humility and basically implied I wasn't going to accept it (which, whilst true, was a very stupid thing to imply, as it could instead have been used as solid leverage, and/or I could have probed how high they were actually willing to match me in the middle instead of just getting a straight no-match/good-luck as an answer a few minutes later as a voicemail after the recruiter talked to the manager to see if they can match my expectations that I've communicated disregarding emotional intelligence).

      If you don't wanna lose the offer, be humble and don't reveal all your cards. If you're truly flexible but wanna keep the options open, never deal in the absolutes and never demand any specific match, always appear determined but flexible. Emotional intelligence is how you get the best outcome without compromising the offer and without burning the bridge — even if you don't actually have any other offers, but are merely waiting on the other loops which may never even result in anything.
      Jun 18, 2021
  • The one more call. Was it technical? Did it not go well. Oracle did this with me
    Jun 8, 2021 16
    • NVIDIA / QA
      Indiaboy

      Go to company page NVIDIA QA

      Indiaboy
      Ya they are just hiring someone that can do the job. Another candidate with the same experience and skill set probably accepted the offer with lower comp. It's normal. It's the investment they have to make, in the end, we are all human beings.
      Jun 10, 2021
    • Cisco
      LTar13

      Go to company page Cisco

      LTar13
      Retracting for negotiating is very unusual. If they don't want to budge, they are at least expected to say, No we can't go higher anymore, this our final offer.
      Jun 10, 2021
  • Uber
    offoffoff

    Go to company page Uber

    offoffoff
    That's the risk you took to get potentially 15k more, I'd do the same. Chin up and move on. You will get a even better offer.
    Jun 8, 2021 9
  • Medtronic / Eng
    SnakeDr

    Go to company page Medtronic Eng

    SnakeDr
    Sounds like you fucked yourself for $15k more, if you wanted the job, you should have taken it.
    Jun 10, 2021 8
  • I don't think it's very common.

    However, I only negotiate when I have leverage to negotiate. Meaning, I have a better offer or my current position already is better.

    In that case, if they did pull the offer, then it's no big deal because they couldn't afford me.
    Jun 8, 2021 7
    • United Airlines / IT
      jky

      Go to company page United Airlines IT

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      Weatherford International
      jky
      Negotiating without counter offers is essential. It’s about tempering value with desire. You may “want” to work somewhere, but you want to make sure that you are being valued correctly. Whether you determine your value through direct competing offers or just market research, either works.
      Jun 10, 2021
    • Wayfair / Eng
      BlueCouch

      Go to company page Wayfair Eng

      BlueCouch
      Recruiters don't decide how badly a team needs the candidate. The hiring committee does. The recruiter is just checking how sweet of a deal they have to make for the candidate.
      Jun 10, 2021