What's the difference? With 10 YOE I feel I should be pushing for 66 but it seems they are only willing to offer 65. How good is this?
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Can anyone elaborate on what the concrete differences between 65 and 66 are? 68 is partner, so I don’t really understand why OP can negotiate to 66.
I made the mistake of accepting 65... the recruiter told me that 66 has higher bar at year end reviews to even make 100% rewards.. and I will be 'setting myself for failure' if I push for 66 (apparently the hiring manager was kind of ok for 66 - but the offer rollout would probably be delayed had I pushed and sign on would be reduced, I agreed for the 65 offer since they said they can roll it out immediately, with significant sign-on)
In hind sight, I should have pushed for 66. This was 2 years ago, and I am still 65 - while the team, work and wlb are good, it is unfortunately a well established team and hard to make majorly impact-full change, with random 'quality improvement' months making it very hard to do feature work. This makes it hard to build a case or promotion. The ongoing pandemic also did not help.
Promo as a EM: depends on your impact and connections… no matter EM/IC
IMO it depends. I’d expect MINIMUM L65 for 10 YOE for anyone. But 66 within 10-11 years has felt like a better goal, but in many groups it’s harder to achieve without being a manager.
TLDR I think you’re right to push for L66 if you’re ambitious and high performer.