2020 having "The Talk" with my manager

Broadridge / Eng 🦝mapache
Dec 30, 2019 28 Comments

"I have to tell you I’ve received another offer, but my preference is to stay here. How do you see my career playing out in this role, and what should I do from here? It’s not one or the other, but I wanted to make you aware out of respect. It’s not personal; it’s business."

YOE: 1.5 Front end
Current TC: $70🥜
New TC: $105🍄

I want to take a second to thank the Blind community for opening my eyes. I was once blind, now I can see 👁👄👁. I've learned so much ever since I discovered this platform, thank you all again. The chase for higher TC must continue ... for now I'm focusing on growth and impact. Time to celebrate and reflect this win #2020🎉🥂🍾

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TOP 28 Comments
  • LinkedIn CfBN18
    Just resign. The difference is too big.
    Dec 30, 2019 7
    • Indeed / Eng TC401k
      what does it mean to get walked out? Pardon my english its my 3rd lan
      Dec 30, 2019
    • LinkedIn / Eng 15haYv$7
      That means you’ll be required to leave the office immediately after you give your resignation letter.
      Dec 30, 2019
  • Microsoft travasty
    Don’t try to stick it to your manager. Don’t try to leverage another offer to get a raise at your current position. Tell him upfront you’ve enjoyed your time there and appreciate his mentorship but you’ve decided to join another company to take on a different challenge. Don’t tell him what company you’re going to or how much more they’re paying you.
    Dec 30, 2019 4
    • Google / Eng 🍑☁️
      What's the point of giving that impression?
      Dec 30, 2019
    • Microsoft travasty
      I don’t make the rules of the game I just follow them
      Dec 30, 2019
  • Starbucks ciwmwrb12
    I was in a similar position. I liked my job, but was aware that I wasn't making as much as the company would pay. I laid it out for my boss, "I'm growing a ton, I appreciate the sponsorship and exposure to execs and impactful projects, and we both know our company pays %x below the market. With that in mind, how should I start a conversation about being competitively paid *here*? [So I acknowledged they may not pay market, but what can we do to get me closer to the high end of the pay range] The options I see are a) let's have a conversation with HR about it right now and see what they can do, b) I'll fish around on the job market for an offer to give you ammunition to pitch for a raise, but c) the offer might be good enough that after I've put in all that effort I might have to take it." 4 weeks later my base increased from $150 to $164, my TC from $185 to $230. And I won't be looking anytime soon. And I know I could be paid a lot more. I was making $380 at my previous company and got caught up in pre-acquisition layoffs. But for now, I'm ok with where I'm at.
    Dec 30, 2019 0
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    • Facebook / Eng bytect
      I dunno, especially earlier in your career it can be really beneficial to up your TC. OP is at a point where they have a lot of room to grow in their TC. Higher TC will enable them to do things like buy a house, save for things, etc. That financial well-being does increase life satisfaction IMO.
      Dec 30, 2019
    • Broadridge / Eng 🦝mapache
      OP
      I know ... but the opportunity to level up and diversify my experience with higher tc ... makes the most sense today.

      I'm going in with the mindset; "I'm accountable for my development, I need to invest in myself"
      Dec 30, 2019
  • Broadridge / Eng 🦝mapache
    OP
    UPDATE: Current company matched the offer with a promotion and adding some extras(2 WFH, certifications sponsorship). I wasn't expecting them to match, my manager doesn't really want me to go and is promising plans for growth. My coach says to take the counter offer since it will reflect on my resume with promotion and more years with the same company.

    Anyone has experienced similar situation? Did you stay? What was that experience like?
    Jan 2 7
    • Starbucks ciwmwrb12
      That said, my best friend leveraged a Microsoft offer to get a 30% raise (via counter) at Amazon and has been happy for the two years since then. Got a promo since then, and successfully moved to a new team.
      Jan 2
    • Broadridge / Eng 🦝mapache
      OP
      @TheTechRec The counter offer is coming from HR not manager.

      Good question. That's my only concern about this.
      Jan 2
  • HashiCorp Karla2018
    Don’t stay somewhere where you are grossly underpaid. Take the other job.
    Dec 31, 2019 0
  • Capital One needsafety
    Why should you prefer to stay there?
    Dec 31, 2019 0
  • New / Ops TheTechRec
    Take the offer. If you are in Engineering, the total comp early in your career will add up long term. If you are a good engineer and really don't enjoy the new company you will be able to interview and find a new place within a few months of going fishing.
    Dec 30, 2019 0
  • Facebook public2
    Popcorn
    Dec 30, 2019 0

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