Comparing offers: advice/information please! Google vs Gusto

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anoncoder3

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Aug 29, 2021 30 Comments

Hi! I have to make a decision ASAP about some offers I have on the table and I’m having trouble deciding as they are very different opportunities. The offers are with #gusto (aka #zenpayroll ), #capitalone, #google, and #thirtymadison. For context, I’m prioritizing learning opportunities (in tech but also domain or product skills), growth within a company, a warm/inclusive environment, and a positive social impact. Of course I’m also thinking about long term prospects, so reputation and tech stack do still matter. Compensation is *not* going to be the deciding factor for me and whichever company I move forward with I would negotiate my offer with, as well. Since I know it’s expected here, I’m posting the basic offer details.

I have 2 yoe at FB as a SWE and I am planning on leaving (staying at FB is not something I’m considering)

Gusto: L2 SWE
TC: ~250k (base, equity, bonus)
Notes: great people, mission oriented, but would I get bored of working at a payroll company?

Thirty Madison: L2 SWE
TC: hard to estimate, depends on value of options, ~180k (base, equity, bonus, signing bonus)
Notes: riskier of options, but closer to direct impact working in the health-tech space

Capital one: senior swe
TC: ~180k
Notes: Within a small team at the company, interesting opportunity with stability and good WLB

Google: L3 (early career)
TC: ~250k
Notes: Good opportunity to learn more tech skills at scale, system design work, probably not as much individual impact but stability and would be easy to find a job after

I’d say google and gusto are probably the top 2 right now, but they’re very, very different. Can people please help me weigh pros/cons? Would be great to also hear from someone who had to make a similar decision? Gusto isn’t a tiny startup so I’m not so worried about stability!
I understand I’m very lucky to be in this position after a lot of hard work, and I’m very thankful for the opportunities.

#swe #offers #startupoffer #faang

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  • Facebook
    anoncoder3

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    anoncoder3
    OP
    I see way too many of these posts without a final resolution, so despite all the people who probably think I've made the wrong decision here, I've decided on Gusto! Coming from FAANG, I think it'll be a good experience in a smaller company without going to a really risky seed stage startup. Thank you all, you gave me a lot to think about!
    Sep 2, 2021 4
  • Google
    wayer

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    wayer
    Google. Branding and support (mentors, seniors etc.). If you don't like it here, you can always go to the other ones you mentioned after a year or two.
    Aug 29, 2021 2
    • Facebook
      anoncoder3

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      anoncoder3
      OP
      True! One thing I'm a bit worried about is career growth, seeing as my team has leaders with Phd's and 10+ yoe. Due to my other timelines I had a really rushed team matching process, I was wondering if now that I have an offer for one team, do you think it would still be possible to talk to other teams before signing/starting? I wouldn't want to lose the offer from the current team/Google in general. The team I'm currently matched with is technically complex, but I'm not particularly passionate about it.
      Aug 29, 2021
    • Google
      wayer

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      wayer
      You can technically try asking for another match, or join in this team and move after a year. You can move before one year too, but that would need a HR flag.

      In general, don't get intimidated with the degrees or YOEs of team members. They offered you a role because they believe you'd be a great fit. I'm a manager, I know we don't often give away roles for juniors unless we see them fit. Be confident!
      Aug 29, 2021
  • Apple
    RQVo51

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    RQVo51
    Is that even a hard problem? Just go to google, you’ll be working with tons of smart people and it’ll open your doors to pretty any other tech companies in your future should you choose to move again.
    Aug 29, 2021 2
    • Apple
      RQVo51

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      RQVo51
      And you are considering gusto only because they pay is similar to G. But think about promotions and refreshers. My advice is to build your background and experience at a fang, then get some financial stability and then you’ll have a strong position to join startup at higher level with better packages and aren’t worried if they don’t go public.
      Aug 29, 2021
    • Facebook
      anoncoder3

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      anoncoder3
      OP
      Actually, Gusto set the bar(not the other way around). As I did mention in my post, compensation is really not going to be what makes a decision for me!
      Aug 29, 2021
  • Microsoft / Eng
    tOxa73

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    tOxa73
    How did you get 250k TC as an L3? Also which location if you don't mind me asking
    Aug 29, 2021 3
  • Google
    XtXP85

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    XtXP85
    i joined google as 2 yoe l3, and i recommend it!! i also got pretty nice offer for l3 , and its easy to meet expectations at l3. you can focus on learning and growing while earning l4 money

    realistically you can get promoed in 1.5 years. cme to ee to see with promo.
    Aug 29, 2021 0