Has anyone successfully negotiated an uplevel?

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Mar 26 16 Comments

For example, you have a couple other companies offering you a Senior position, and you use that as leverage against a mid-level position offer?

If so, which company offered you an uplevel and how did you do it?

Thanks,

A noob who got downleveled

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  • - Currently a principal at akamai.
    - Applied for an L6 senior at aws.
    - They offered L5.
    - Asked for feedback as to why and I got a "sorry, can't tell you".
    - Restated my major accomplishments to the recruiter, dollar amounts I've helped earn in my roles over the years, etc.
    - Recruiter: Okay I'll tell the team, you're declining the L5 role.
    - Me: yep thanks.

    So nope, didn't work out for me. L5 would have been a $20k paycut.
    Mar 26 2
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      Damn brutal, appreciate you sharing your experience though. Seems like it’s not super common
      Mar 26
    • Yeah it sucked putting in the interview prep time as well as the 5+ hours for the interview itself. Recruiter said "Sounds like you aren't in it for the long haul" even though I said from the very first phone screen that the offer has to be attractive enough for me to leave Akamai as I'm not unhappy here. Know your worth and be willing to walk away is my advice.
      Mar 26
  • Amazon / Eng
    putins**ks

    Go to company page Amazon Eng

     putins**ks
    Got up level at Coinbase. Got IC5 offer and rejected it and mentioned want IC6 as have some competes. They agreed with 2 additional interviews and got IC6. Signed the offer.
    Mar 26 4
    • Amazon
      🔥kc

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      🔥kc
      Thanks! What was the reverse system design interview like? Where you critique some system design choices?
      Apr 15
    • Amazon / Eng
      bazzinga2

      Go to company page Amazon Eng

       bazzinga2
      If you have those rounds - recruiters tell you what to prepare with clear expectations.

      I worked backwards from those expectations and made sure covered all things expected.

      In general- one project you proud of, your role, problem, tech deep dives, architecture diagram drawings on a high level, choices and trade offs, customer & stake holders, cross functional engagements, impact, $ conversions, urgency, your ideas, future scope, complexity etc etc.

      It gets tricky as you have to drive 1 hr conversation and you will only focus on 1 project. I found it easy to talk as I had done most of the things I am talking. Only challenging part was to be mindful of how to convey the project in simple english so a person without any domain knowledge can understand and collect necessary data points out of each segment.

      Some prep beforehand and knowing the flow in which you want to keep crushing would help.

      Essentially spitting a major design doc in an hour with in-depth knowledge on whatever you touch.
      Apr 15
  • I’ve heard people do it by getting the higher level offer first, then telling the next company they won’t accept less, i.e. don’t waste my time interviewing unless it’s for the level I want
    Mar 26 0
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    Llama.com

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    Llama.com
    I have seen people do this at other companies with mixed success. I've seen it work out. And I've seen them get pipped within a year because they got in over their head.
    Mar 26 2
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    BrRM02

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    BrRM02
    Probably unlikely to work at increasing level, but negotiating like that is a good way to get a better offer at any level
    Mar 26 0