Group PM or Head of Product Analytics

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iron chef
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Rounding up career decade 1 and spent quite a bit of time in consulting/MBB and venture building.

Transitioned to Product Strategy in Tech but stagnating so looking at Group PM or Head of Product Analytics

Current product org has 15-20 PMs/Leads but no GPM. Product analytics is 0 people and completely untouched capability in the company.

So I’m Leaning towards Product Analytics — inspiration is Crystal Widjaja

Regardless of the position, I expect a significant ramp up

https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystalwidjaja

TC: 160k (in EU)
YoE: 10 (4 in Product)

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  • Square
    yiisks

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    yiisks
    Do you have any ds experience? If you don’t, I think you’ll have trouble leading this team. PM is general has better career progression and pay.
    7d 18
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      iron chef

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      ah man sorry I was building slides 🤣

      but on a more serious note, I do expect to massively ramp-up in DS/A skills and statically knowledge to actually pull this off. if that doesn’t actual happen as part of my plan (assuming Analytics) then I’m destined to fail
      6d
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      iron chef

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      @modcloth - you’re spot on. I actually don’t like to identify as part of the MBB cohort — I 100% plan to get the relevant skill and knowledge necessary for either role.

      I’m confident, that In big tech, there’s no way I can skate by on BS and nor do I actually want to go to bad with intelligent+capable people. Might as well give me a loaded gun and ask me to play Russian roulette
      6d
  • Nike
    eSIS31

    Go to company page Nike

    eSIS31
    Have spent 6 years in data space. Almost 3+in product analytics. Product Analytics is a little difficult without understanding the technicalities of data. Especially if you’re building it from the ground 0.

    Analytics team is the bridge between data engineering and product teams. You have your strength with the product team already but might need some exposure to data technicalities as well. It looks rosy but it’s really difficult to scope out the projects and set expectations even with a data background.
    7d 2
    • New
      xix3

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      xix3
      Agreed. Being the first of any role is really difficult as it is and much more so if you have no experience to begin with
      7d
    • Lynden Incorporated
      DFJz86

      Lynden Incorporated

      DFJz86
      Even after 5 years of BI, it's still extremely tough to scope and estimate projects.
      7d
  • Grofers
    noplease

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    noplease
    Data roles are the absolute worst - zero ownership. I was happy with data roles initially but then you become a periphery in the grander scheme things happening at the org and you dislike it. It also makes your personality boring - this is a big thing to consider.

    Group PM > Head of PA
    7d 3
    • Nike
      eSIS31

      Go to company page Nike

      eSIS31
      Also +1 on Group PM > Head of PA
      Head of PA is way more work than Group PM and it’s not as rewarding.
      7d
    • Speak for your own experience with analytics personalities. The engineers I’ve seen are often the dead inside type or snarky af, analytics folks have a zest for learning and are more open minded overall. PMs’ personalities have been closer to the analytics type IME.
      5d
  • Google
    newew

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    newew
    I’m curious, are you being offered these roles or are you looking to move into these role? These are both L7+ roles in tech and are extremely competitive without the relevant experience. Both have some overlap to product strategy but PM more than analytics. To jump right into a Group PM role without being a PM before is almost unheard of though.

    If you don’t know experimentation and don’t have a statistics background then I would go with PM. It also has higher upwards trajectory.
    7d 7
    • Meta / Product
      cNyH69

      Go to company page Meta Product

       cNyH69
      Wtf 10 YOE and you want to be a director? Maybe that's possible at a series A company, but larger companies generally need you to have led teams. Have you even looked at LinkedIn to compare your resume with current directors?
      6d
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      iron chef

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      Nope I’m hella… *blind* :letroll:
      5d
  • We’re hiring product analysts and you seem like you’d be a great fit!
    7d 5