Why do people say Amazon is worse than Apple?

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Nov 12, 2019 30 Comments

I’m relatively new to Blind, but as far as I know, doesn’t Apple pay a lot less for new grad compared to Amazon (150k in cupertino vs 130k in seattle, not including sign on)? After taxes plus an additional 12k/year in cupertino housing, doesn’t the amazon worker take home a lot more?

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  • Apple
    zxcxc

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    zxcxc
    Been at both. Apple is way better than Amazon:
    1. Pay: Apple pays competitive to G/Fb (at least for senior levels), but Amazon is way behind.
    2. Wlb at Apple is amazing for SWE (horrible for hardware folks though).
    3. Amazon has a lot of awful managers (non-technical, non-professional) who don't have skills to buffer their reports, let alone helping their reports grow.
    4. Amazon in general is very frugal in every aspect (no perks, no annual refreshers, etc.)
    5. You don't feel you're valued at all at Amazon, while at Apple it's completely different.

    P.S. I'm not saying Apple is the ultimate place, but in comparison to Amazon it's way better.
    Nov 12, 2019 9
  • Amazon has the most toxic culture
    Nov 12, 2019 6
    • Amazon pays less among all, and still make you suffer for nothing.
      Amazon doesn't even have annual performance bonus.
      Their vesting policy is crazy - 5%, 15%, 40%, 40%
      Nov 12, 2019
    • Apple
      centerfire

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      centerfire
      To echo @zxcxc, bad managers are responsible for a lot of Amazon’s reputation. While work experiences rely greatly on the quality of one’s manager at both Apple and Amazon, IME the latter seems to have a higher share of stressed-out, inexperienced, and poorly trained managers. The Uncle Ben rule cuts both way—Amazon’s managers get a lot of power within their fiefdoms, but too many are equipped to deal with responsibility and expectations. That makes for a really bad experience for workers.
      Nov 13, 2019
  • New / Eng
    AmazonEng

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    Amazon is better than Apple. More interesting projects and options.
    Nov 12, 2019 4
  • Amazon
    uaqh79

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    uaqh79
    Because apples are better than bananas
    Nov 12, 2019 0
  • Google
    topCon

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    topCon
    I hear Apple has awesome refreshers. Amazon refreshers 👎
    Nov 12, 2019 0