Google up-level L3 -> L4

Zulily / Eng
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Passed interviews, HC, and got team matched at L3. Thanks to Blind, i knew to ask HM whether he could help advocate for me to join as an L4. He said yes.

Recruiter called to tell me they wanted to move on with L3 offer. I brought up the whole L4 topic, and got a blunt "this is not something we can do at this time" followed by a whole spiele.

L3 offer was 128k, 95k over 4 years. A joke.
Meta E4 was 165k, 400k over 4, 60k signon

Then i brought up my Meta E4 offer and the numbers.

Ohhhh how quickly their tone changed. Suddenly, "we will do everything we can to get you a competitive offer". I get an email from my recruiter 10 min after we spoke on the phone stating that they contacted my HM, and they "collectively decided" to submit my application for re-approval to HC for an L4 role. The part that im dreading is the "you may need to do 2 more interviews". Now i did see another post on here where some person managed to get upleveled to L4 with 2 yoe and no additional interviews. Here's hoping that happens to me. Im so sick of interviewing.

Seattle, WA
YoE: 3
TC: 150k

#google #meta #faang #tech

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  • Meta
    WiIl Smith

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    WiIl Smith
    Hey OP, I went through the EXACT same situation last year. Google recruiter said it was impossible to get an up level because my feedback wasn’t good enough. Demanded to have my Amazon recruiter’s name, email, and offer letter when I mentioned the nearly $400k offer. Decided to re-submit my app for L4 after I told them about my E4 FB offer. I passed the 2 extra interviews and got L4 and they still said they weren’t able to tell me numbers for another 3 weeks, while my FB offer was going to expire.

    At that point I was fed up with Google’s predatory practices, lack of respect for a candidate’s time, and outright lying. I rejected them for FB. Feel free to DM me.
    5d 1
  • Google
    AXEn02

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    AXEn02
    Go with FB even Googlers would thank you. When Google can't hire enough people they are going to have to bump internal comp to lower the retention rate.
    5d 0
  • New / Eng
    BrazilBšŸ‘

    New Eng

    PRE
    Amazon, iCIMS
    BrazilBšŸ‘
    The hoops Google makes you jump through make it so unattractive to interview. You go through all the time and effort, and if you don't have a competing offer you're not getting what you deserve.

    Crazy

    Hope it works out.
    5d 0
  • Balltune favours the balls
    5d 2
  • Meta
    ORQC88

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    ORQC88
    Chiming on as another ā€œmetamateā€, sigh. I too got downleved by G to L3. Recurring TC was about 220k.

    Otoh had E4 offers from FB, Apple, DataDog.

    They never budged though. Not even a reinterview option. My recruiter said I could have the HM vouch for me for E4 but it didn’t really change anything, they never budged.

    And also regarding timeline, G was one of the earliest interviews I had and still the last one to share any numbers with me. They have the most inflexible recruiting process.
    5d 0