[India] Senior Tech Lead at Cisco vs L63 at Microsoft

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May 7, 2021 15 Comments

Spouse is in MS Hyd, Azure Networking since start of pandemic, CTC is 80L. Cisco Senior Tech Lead offer came at same salary. Spouse asked for 1 Cr + Principal role. But they are not moving. She likes the role. She was earlier TL at Cisco. Total Exp 13 Years.
Cisco Offer: 55 Base + 10L RSU per year + 14 L yearly Bonus
Ms: 43 Base, 30L RSU + 6 L Yearly Bonus
AZNet she did not like (ops heavy). She likes her previous work in routing & security. Scope is better at Cisco. But no brandname, directionless products, and no hikes in general...
Any advice? #cisco #microsoft

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  • I worked in cisco before (nxos) and microsoft azure networking.
    Cisco culture is much better than microsoft. Bonus policy and ESPP in cisco is much stronger. Microsoft is huge company and much more political than Cisco. I experienced very toxic culture and very shitty managers in microsoft.
    Azure networking as you mentioned is right, lot of work is SRE.
    Reason being networking has had too many outages and new features have been reduced significantly. Risk is you push new features, do some config changes and sev2s/1s/outages increase. So focus is on stabilization, automation etc. So many people do not like it. Less good work causes too much competition amongst devs and stack ranking gets worse. As I see ms is offering 43 base which is much lesser than 55 base in cisco. DO NOT fall for 30L Rsu. Because i guarantee you will lose on bonus as cisco gives target + IPF whereas microsoft gives target/2. Unless you get 1 Cr as your spouse rightly mentioned , it is not worth to take all bad work and toxic culture. And microsoft does kick out people or reorg them in shitty teams so that people will leave by themselves. No need to layoff :) thus saving companies money. Layoff pkg in cisco is much better than ms.
    May 8, 2021 2
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      Thanks. Spouse has matching insight about culture. Ops is like 70% of work actually!
      May 8, 2021
    • yes, ops is main work and feature is side work. I remember it was all about modifying scripts and router configs. And crappy automation tools as well as bringing up new tools to replace previous ones are almost of same quality. Security makes the things complex and even worse.
      May 8, 2021
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    YOE?
    May 7, 2021 1
  • Microsoft has tons of products in india and as company & brand name it's better, also in general they treat you better, so ask her to look internally, she might need to reinterview but it might work out better
    May 7, 2021 1
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    Cisco giving G12 for 13 yoe? Also what did your spouse decide? Joining Cisco or staying in MS?
    May 27, 2021 0
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    Are yearly bonuses guaranteed? AFAIK it depends on the performance right? Are you including a maximum value possible of the same?
    May 7, 2021 2