Long story short, I got a job offer from IBM that pays way more than my current job. Problem is, I've already set the motions for going to the military for training that'll take five months. I didn't tell them this until I signed the paperwork and had a call from my manager telling me I'm officially an IBM employee. I told him about my upcoming training and he said that was unexpected and to update him on whether or not I will still be going. I emailed him and my recruiter the details of my training and when I'll be back but it's been two days since I've heard from either of them. What do y'all think is going on? Should I try contacting him directly? I know I'm covered by USERRA but are there any loopholes they can use since I just got hired? #ibm #hiring EDIT: The original job posting said the start date was in late 2022 but when the manager called me, he said the job posting was incorrect and they needed someone ASAP EDIT: I'm assuming TC is money? So my first job pays me $70k and the new one is $92k plus $10k sign on bonus.
They can be jerks to you but that’s about it as I understand and have an attitude. Unlikely that HR will want to touch with a 10’ pole. Should have disclosed it during the interview process but I digress. I’d keep documentation if there’s any sense that they might be retaliatory with reviews - there’s usually an on-site ombudsman for that. Big companies = mobility and you’re considered in the same view as a minority hire (veterans are usually a check in the box hire) don’t stress it
I have all the emails and such from them, I'll save them just in case.
@jp you're wrong here. OP would have enough proof that they treated him/her differently upon learning about military obligations. HR would def get involved to protect the company if they're good at what they do and would inform the hiring manager to just double hire or find a parallel job for OP with no time crunch. OP could very easily sue and win given the variables. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and the 💰
Big mistake not mentioning something so blatant. Why would you give your start date as before this training if you knew you weren’t going to unenroll/cancel this training? Which, btw sounds like your only/best option if you want the job, judging from the words of the manager.
I edited the post to include some important info. The job posting originally said the start date was late 2022. Plus I couldn't cancel the military training, the timing at the time was too perfect.
Just took a job from someone who could of started sooner. Smh
It's a dog-eat-dog world. Plus this doesn't mean they can't hire someone else.
As much a dick move as those not disclosing their paternity / maternity leave plans till day 1 of joining
Lmao but in reality, if you knew you wouldn't be hired for a specific reason, why would you mention that reason?
In today's age with all the discrimination lawsuits that's a non issue
I find the replies to this interesting. I’ve seen so many posts where someone has accepted an offer somewhere, signed paperwork and is about to start a new job, then receive an offer elsewhere for more money. Usually the consensus is, go for the higher TC even if you already accepted the other offer. This is essentially the same thing (minus more TC I assume) and OP is being told they are a terrible person for not disclosing this ahead of time?
I honestly don't get it as well. Also, what is TC? I'm assuming that's the salary?
Yes, total comp.
Argument could be made that you did the ethical thing in protecting the company from the potential legal liability that they could have incurred if they had used that information during the hiring process. From a hiring perspective, if you can't consider it, much better and safer not to know it. ETA - there are several employee groups for active duty/reserves/veterans at IBM. Suggest you connect, asap.
Idk but just wanted to say you're lowkey a scumbag for not disclosing that
1. I got advised by multiple professionals NOT TO DISCLOSE that because it's illegal for an employer to not hire you due to your military service. In reality, they'll refuse to hire you because of it and blame it for a different reason. 2. I started the process for the military a long time ago and never really got an update on it. I wasn't even expecting to go to training for another couple of months. I also started the application process for IBM a long time ago and it two 2-3 months to get the job offer.
Do you live in the U.S? Do you know anything about USERRA rights? Also, they don't pay you for 5 months. That's not how it works. The employee would go on military leave. NON PAID (depends on the company policy)