Apple AI/ML

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dettol

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dettol
Mar 19 22 Comments

Folks from the AI ML Org at Apple. Could you please provide some insights into it, I will be joining the org in May as a data engineer.

Thanks!

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  • Apple
    SoulSaver

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    SoulSaver
    Insights… the priority is to make sure external users get proper experiences (mostly). Quality of internal tools is bad; you’ll spend most of your time trying to use other team’s broken tools or supporting users trying to use your team’s broken tools instead of spending time on the actual work you’re supposed to accomplish. Each quarter your team is committed to create new tools or add new features to existing tools so that the work to add new features for external users can get done. Work to fix broken tools is never prioritized due to limited capacity. All work gets pushed top down. No manager in the chain from top management to you will push back but distribute the work within their team pretending all engs are 10x engs (i.e., optimistic).

    There is no consistency between teams. Some of them have much better eng practices than others (if any at all). Quality of engs varies a lot (even at the same level). Quality of hires within the last 2 years is not bad but the average is significantly lower for earlier hires and obviously you’ll need to learn to identify them and set expectations accordingly.

    If you manage not to care/worry about these issues and just do what you can in your 40hrs/week then you’ll enjoy it.
    Mar 19 12
    • Apple
      SoulSaver

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      SoulSaver
      Career wise and assuming good performance, if you get into Meta or Google, then you can get to E4/L4 within two years and then switch to Apple as ICT4 which is similar to what it would take if joined Apple as ICT3 (maybe one or two additional years). Getting to ICT5 from ICT4 would take 4+ years. Getting to E5/L5 from L4/L4 takes 2+ years. Getting hired as ICT5 being already E5/L5 is not easy, it requires some more years of experience usually (I’m not aware of any ICT5 hire with less than 10 YOE).

      Therefore, shortest path to ICT5 would be joining Meta/Google as E3/L3, get promoted to E4/E4, joined Apple as ICT4 and then get promoted to ICT5. In that process, you would learn stuff not taught at Apple and then get disappointed after joining Apple for its absence. =)

      Also, Apple in your resume doesn’t look as good as Meta/Apple at the beginning of your career. So even from this perspective Meta/Google is a better choice.
      Mar 20
    • Amdocs
      dettol

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      dettol
      OP
      I haven’t been more confused in my life before. I like Apple and Meta both, each for a bunch of reasons. I am 26 can you lay down some points which should be my priority to decide?
      Mar 20
  • Apple
    CTpT04

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    CTpT04
    Avoid!
    Mar 19 7
  • Apple
    hGHb78

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    hGHb78
    Who’s is your director?
    Mar 19 0