Amazon L6 PMT offer. Interviewed for L7 PMT. Need advice.

Intel / Product neo_g
Sep 9, 2019 15 Comments

Have been offered L6 PMT role though interviewed for L7 by existing L7/L8 of Amazon team. Not sure I understand why as I have people management, Senior leader in current role plus relevant job experience. Appreciate any reasons why this could happen? Since role is interesting level is not a concern but concerned about the compensation. Existing TC (Base+Bonus) ~$270K projected to go to ~$300K shortly. Would Amazon be able to offer atleast ~$350K (Base+Bonus)TC at L6? What's reasonable expectation Stock/RSU's at senior L6 ?

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  • Amazon poiinter
    Bay or Sea and YOE? You were downleveled because they didn’t think you raised the bar for L7. Just because you are senior or have people manager experience at Intel doesn’t mean other companies will consider you senior talent. It’s harsh but it happens frequently. I would push for the level if at all possible or decline and keep playing golf at Intel. L6 won’t get you to 350k. Google the Amazon comp model.
    Sep 9, 2019 2
    • Intel / Product neo_g
      OP
      Thank you for insights. It would be likely SEA. Does it makes difference? Overall 16+ yoe and 8 of which is PM. Is it possible to negotiate level ? Should it be with hiring manager or Recruiter?
      Sep 9, 2019
    • Lyft !lyft
      PMT Seattle offers for L6 tops at $300k. Likely the initial offer will be $250k, and after negotiation you can get to $300k.

      L7 PMT is $325k-$375k
      Sep 14, 2019
  • New / Eng
    panditji

    New Eng

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    panditjimore
    Don't under any circumstances let them Downlevel you.
    It's crazy hard to be promoted to L7 internally, you're better off respectfully declining this offer and interview again in 6 months time.

    With 16yoe you can definitely do better.
    Sep 10, 2019 0
  • Microsoft UfzO38
    Interviewed for L6 got lowballed to L5, standard bar raiser crap. 350k L6 no way
    Sep 9, 2019 2
    • Intel / Product neo_g
      OP
      Did u take the offer?
      Sep 9, 2019
    • Microsoft UfzO38
      Rejected, the recruiter was an alpha jerk.
      Sep 10, 2019
  • NEOGOV Baymax90
    Can you please share your experience of how you got the offer? What sources did you use for preparation?

    I previously interviewed for L6 and got rejected. I studied the leadership principles and prepared stories in the STAR method.
    I have a PMT interview coming up and would appreciate any pointers.
    Oct 18, 2019 0
  • New MEEg47
    Can I ask what PMT interview is like? Any technical stuff?
    Sep 9, 2019 0
  • Intel / Product neo_g
    OP
    Can members help guide who to pursue level negotiation? Recruiter seems binary in their approach. Take it or leave it. Could they give L7 salary range at Higher end of L6 if they don’t move the needle on Level.
    Sep 10, 2019 3
    • Amazon / Product TechiePM
      I doubt Seattle L6 PM-T will pay $350K. You should decline and re-apply. Ask for feedback from the recruiter on why you did not raise the bar and then try to improve on that.
      Sep 12, 2019
    • Amazon amazons
      Negotiating level is not possible, but there is a process to get comp exceptions to pay an L6 like an L7. Requires vp approval though. I’d assume 300 tops.
      Sep 19, 2019
  • I had the same experience of interviewing for l7 and getting down leveled to l6. The initial pay offered was much better though than listed here. 350+ for sea. Negotiations may lead to higher. I was considered a growth candidate though, whatever that means. For prep, certainly focus on leadership principles. Practice articulation of answers as you would need to be concise yet detailed. I probably spent about 4-6 hours total in prep. Thought of 2-3 scenarios for all 14 principles. But, there are no right or wrong answers in these interviews. It’s the clarity of thought and willingness to go deeper, based on which you are evaluated. Certainly the usual questions you find online for behavioral are the ones to prepare for. In addition to that think about how to measure feature adoption, success of a release, pricing, product design. Most of this info was available online. Amazon takes pride in being public about their interview process and openly discuss the kind of candidates they are looking for. More importantly, be thorough with your work experience and brush up on the details of the situation you are planning to bring up.
    Feb 8 0
  • Capco dmodemd
    Same exact thing happening to me now. YOE: 30+. Was told that I was just short of L7 in the panel discussion. Rejected the same opening 250K offer. On-sites went well at Google and waiting to go into HC, so will try and get offer there which I would take anyway if something I can accept. Crickets from MS despite a referral.
    Nov 6, 2019 0

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