Amazon Offer - Paycut

Oct 7, 2019 66 Comments

Interviewed for L5 but got L4. Recruiter told I will be on L5 path as soon as I join (this is BS ik)

Recruiter asked competing offers and current comp and straight up told me we cannot beat any of your offer or current comp. Recruiter was rude once I shared my current comp numbers and was like you couldn't clear L5 so don't expect these numbers by us (in rude tone). I told her can you please wait till Google HC result and she was like for one candidate I can't keep the entire pool waiting, I will generate the offer & you can sign it in 48 hours or leave it.

Current TC: 180K (155k base rest RSUs)
On track to promotion in December (180k base later - 220k TC)
Amazon will offer me numbers by Wednesday.

What should I do? Should I take a pay cut if they don't beat my comp? Is pay cut justified for Amazon brand name?

Full time US YOE: < 1 YOE
Total YOE: 2.5 years

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  • eBay
    seat

    eBay

    BIO
    Why did you click on me 😡
    seatmore
    You’re still a baby. Your expectations don’t match reality
    Oct 7, 2019 4
    • Credit Karma 🥺Sad
      OP
      There were other 3 candidates that day. We met after interview and all had same opinion on Manager.
      Personal feeling - I could see myself being put into PIP by manager's expressions in the interview. He was brilliant (L6 in 5 years) but didn't found him pleasant to talk to in the interview.
      Oct 7, 2019
    • Uber / Eng itsdara
      Yep ask him how many people did he PIP to get promoted
      Oct 24, 2019
  • Twitch dhj578!
    Get your promotion
    Oct 7, 2019 0
  • Chase / Eng SO_U812
    If hiring manager is rude, why even consider it? Say no thank you.
    Oct 7, 2019 0
  • OP - if the hiring manager is as bad as you say, and you can imagine getting on a pip, please for the love of God don't proceed further with Amazon! Even if they offer a higher TC, your mental health is worth a lot more!
    Oct 7, 2019 1
    • This is especially true if you're in the US on a Visa!!
      Oct 7, 2019
  • Palo Alto Networks cJGl32
    Don’t do the mistake I did.Don’t take a pay cut.
    Recruiters promise lot of things to get prospective employees onboard - but once u get hired , it’s u and your manager that need to work hard to get level set.
    Oct 7, 2019 1
    • Amazon / Eng PanLoot
      ^ + 1
      Oct 7, 2019
  • Salesforce / Eng ZooSome11
    this recruiter is full of dark patterns. instead of thanking you for giving Amzn a shot they do shit like this?
    Oct 7, 2019 0
  • No
    Oct 7, 2019 0
  • Credit Karma 🥺Sad
    OP
    I got the numbers (L4) -
    172K TC in Seattle.
    135 base, 35.5 year 1 sign on, 24k year 2 sign on, 38 RSUs.
    Oct 8, 2019 9
    • Amazon / Eng firefly123
      Yeah I think it’s a really dumb practice that’s been masked by a hugely performing stock. Without the stock WAY outperforming I think talented engineers will find superior offers outside Amazon.
      Oct 9, 2019
    • Microsoft isio37
      Only consider 5-20% of RSUs in your TC calculation

      5% if you get "PIP"d out before you 2 year anniversary (very common),, 20% if you get PIP'D out before your 3rd year anniversary.
      Nov 3, 2019
  • LinkedIn Wiener
    Amazon can beat 180K TC for L4. They will give you an exploding offer before Google HC result so be prepared for it.
    Oct 7, 2019 9
    • SoundHound pxzrog
      Probably not 230k... I guess it depends on your interview, but I had another 200k+ offer and they didn't match. If you crushed it, I assume you can try for near 200k
      Oct 7, 2019
    • Amazon amazons
      You’re not getting 200k for L4. I’ve never seen higher than low 180s.
      Oct 7, 2019
  • Microsoft isio37
    When comparing Amazon offer TC, only consider the stocks that will vest on the first 2 years.

    More than half of folks get churned out before 2 years are over.
    Oct 7, 2019 3
    • Microsoft isio37
      When I say half I meant churn/leave.

      Best to only include the first 2 years of stock vesting.
      Oct 7, 2019
    • Microsoft FhJI43
      Why does it blow?
      Oct 7, 2019

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