Tech IndustryApr 18, 2018
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Amazon PIP question

1) When on PIP can you transfer to another team in Amazon 2) what are the chances to succeed when on PIP. 3)Pros and cons of taking it or not taking it

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Tableau NpAr35 Apr 18, 2018

Do you have a choice on taking it?

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zWYS33 OP Apr 18, 2018

I have the choice of either leaving or taking the PIP

Facebook hhryjfd Apr 18, 2018

I do not think there is company on earth that allows you to transfer teams when on PIP.

Docker U( Apr 18, 2018

This is stupid though, performances are often related to your motivation and your environment.

Twitch oopss Apr 18, 2018

If you were a manager, would you take someone into your team who's on PIP?

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zWYS33 OP Apr 18, 2018

How many have succeeded taking the route of PIP Is it doable?

Amazon Hooliganss Apr 18, 2018

Obviously you don’t have access to amazon private threads, but there’s a good number of people.

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zWYS33 OP Apr 18, 2018

Where is that thread?

Amazon dalejrjr Apr 18, 2018

1) No 2) Very low 3) Pros: have a chance of staying at Amazon, extend employment time. Cons: if unsuccessful lower severance, see 2. Not confirmed: ineligible for rehire if failing PIP One should first appeal Pivot then decide if taking PIP makes sense if appeal doesn't succeed. PIP is basically when Amazon has already decided to fire you IMO

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zWYS33 OP Apr 18, 2018

Thank you for sharing

Facebook gLKg44 Apr 19, 2018

What's the severance like with and without PIP?

LinkedIn Takehome Apr 18, 2018

DM me for referral to LinkedIn. Nobody deserves to work for crappy companies like Amazon.

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Google jghyrh Apr 19, 2018

Why would you not take the pip? Even if you intend on leaving, you basically get paid longer, for doing minimal work (if you don't care about staying). Or does pip put you on a blacklist that leaving doesn't?

Amazon dalejrjr Apr 19, 2018

Severance on failed PIP is lower. PIP is usually designed for failure. The chance to get back on track is dev list which is before, but these are often secret or not that obvious. PIP can be cut short at any time. Also, apparently, leaving before PIP on Pivot make one eligible for rehire after 1yr while failing PIP makes one ineligible. This is new for this year. Doesn't make sense to me as both are failures.

Google jghyrh Apr 19, 2018

Thanks for that, that explains it. Didn't know Amazon had severance!

Amazon Dangalf Nov 7, 2018

Seriously we are infested with awful managers and if they want to look good to a VP they will pull this crap. I just got out of one and it was only because I documented things so well and the manager didn’t. The manager didn’t count on me being meticulous plus they didn’t do their homework. I showed all of my evidence and it was very damning. I am sorry this is happening to you. I am out of it but looking elsewhere for another job. I feel like they are too many Barney Fifes.

Amazon XpNT62 Aug 15, 2022

My God you hit the nail on the head with the Barney Fife. So much machismo when people get a title. It's like watching someone turn into a werewolf.