CompensationApr 20, 2018
NewPMzzz

Amazon Principal PM offer - wdyt?

I just got an offer to join Amazon as a Principal PM in Seattle: $148k base $98k signing bonus, spread over 2 years 215 RSUs with the usual AMZN vesting schedule (5%/15%/20%...) I'd like to get to 255 RSUs. Is that going to be a reach? Should I try to get more in signing bonus instead? That would get me closer to what I am making now. (I'm happy to take a small pay cut in this case.) For background, I have 10 years experience, and a very specific skill set that matches to the team. I've already looked at Glassdoor, Levels, and posts on Blind, but you know how it is...it would be super helpful to get feedback from current/former Amazonians!

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Microsoft Lotl Apr 20, 2018

Salary and sign on are super low for L7. Try and get as much up front as you can. That’s a weak L6 offer. Edit: Counter with 160 salary, 260k sign on, 320 RSU if truly L7.

Dragoneer Investment Group ¯\_{ツ} _/¯ Apr 20, 2018

Hm, what would a strong L6 offer look like?

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PMzzz OP Apr 20, 2018

Super helpful feedback. I don't know what level the title is being mapped to, but I think it's L7 based on Levels. This is so stressful!

Amazon Msg615 Apr 20, 2018

I’m a L6 PM, that offer is not bad, but there is some room to go up as it’s close to mine (principal is L7 so you should be a bit higher). If you’re ok with the base and bonus, go for the RSU ask. I would caution though, beware that you will never see a salary annual raise higher than ~3% (even that will be rare, not exaggerating here), so don’t count on ever making more than 150k base once you take that offer. If they try to give you a line about “we want some room to grow your salary”, it’s BS. If base is important to you, make sure they give you the full 160 for Seattle or 180 (I think?) for Cali.

Microsoft Lotl Apr 20, 2018

If it’s L7 you should max out salary. If you are meeting or exceeding the bar at L7 they are happy to pay you the 160 base and refresh RSU after 4 years, otherwise they are happy for you to attrite out. I’ve known several people to score >150 base at L6, and more than 200k sign on.

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PMzzz OP Apr 20, 2018

Really good feedback. I haven't done this in a while and am amazed at how PM salaries have evolved. So, something like $160k base, maybe $160k sign-on and 255 RSUs? Or is that too much?

Google Tupak Apr 20, 2018

Is it me or this is really low. Would it be as low if it was a swe? At google, l7 easily clears 500k$/year

Microsoft Lotl Apr 20, 2018

Seems super low, pretty sure it’s not L7.

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Lambada Apr 20, 2018

Amazon has been going low with their offers recently. Both on level and comp. Many posts about that here.

Amazon BakBown Apr 20, 2018

This is PM and not PM-T? I’d ask for the $160K base max for sure. That way anything in the future will be RSUs.

Samsung dApu68 Dec 19, 2018

PM Vs PM-T...who makes more at the same level?

Amazon Fuytfdzh Apr 20, 2018

Seems low for Principal PM. Ask about level and ask if PM or PM-T.

McKinsey McKanon May 24, 2019

Just landed on this thread. What was the final offer?