Amazon SDE I TC Evaluation

Nov 26, 2019 29 Comments

Amazon Seattle

Do I have any room to negotiate? Im very happy with the offer, but articles say “always negotiate, always”.

Im happy with not, but should I anyways? And if so what should I ask for?

TC: 194k
Base: 112k
Stock: 4k (80k over 4 yrs)
SO: 26k yr1
Relocation: 7k
Job specific bonus: 45k

EDIT: Yoe is 1 internship, newgrad with B.S

I anticipate WLB to be hell for this comp lol

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  • Is job specific bonus due to security clearance? If so, you can probably negotiate and ignore it for negotiations
    Nov 26, 2019 14
    • Qualcomm humblebrag
      OP
      Gotcha so I might be able to at least try. My other offer is only compelling if I do like you said and disregard the clearance bonus for now.

      Did you have a job that gave clearance bonus at amazon?
      Nov 26, 2019
    • No but my friend did so I combined our experiences. It’s the same as a normal job except sometimes you do classified stuff
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Qualcomm humblebrag
      OP
      Gotcha, that’s pretty dope. I ask cause I’m wondering how long it took to receive the TS clearance, and if he got it before his start date
      Nov 26, 2019
    • He had it from an internship with Lockheed. Congrats on the offer and let me know how negotiations go!
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Qualcomm humblebrag
      OP
      Thanks! I appreciate everything you’ve told me!
      Nov 26, 2019
  • Adobe abocyj
    This offer for SDE1 ? Cannot believe that. Is it ML ?
    Nov 26, 2019 2
    • Qualcomm humblebrag
      OP
      Not ML, has a bit of a dual role responsibility
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Adobe abocyj
      Sorry I misread the base compensation
      Nov 26, 2019
  • Microsoft eito36
    great year 1 TC for SDE 1. Higher than some SDE2s. year 2 will be around 140?

    base is super low though. you have to give back relo if you leave within two years. job specific bonus - is it prorated? what’s the give back policy?

    If you don’t have a better offer, I’d take and leave within a year
    Nov 26, 2019 4
    • Qualcomm humblebrag
      OP
      I didn’t know that about the relocation, I couldn’t really find anything that said contingencies on relocation. No give back on the bonus, quarterly bonus. TC year 2 will have 22 SO and the same other bonus
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Microsoft eito36
      oh so the job specific bonus is over two years?
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Qualcomm humblebrag
      OP
      Sorry no, it’s every year and I get it split evenly every quarter. So my TC should always contain that bonus amount
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Microsoft eito36
      damn - where can i get a 45k bonus annually
      Nov 26, 2019
  • New h0r4y
    You can add more for base. You can probably ask for 130K base and more SO bonus. What's your YOE?

    A few months ago AWS offered me 130K + 30K first year SO, and 85K rsu for 4 years, and I told them No. So they can definitely offer better than your numbers.
    Nov 26, 2019 2
    • Qualcomm humblebrag
      OP
      I’m 0yoe, just an internship. I’m newgrad. Is asking for that fair for newgrad?
      Nov 26, 2019
    • New h0r4y
      Why do you care about fairness? The important part is that you get the maximum benefit.

      Not like Amazon has ever played fair with anyone. Don't be naive. Maximize what you deserve. Amazon doesn't care about their employees. You should take advantage of them. Plus, that company makes so much money, do you think they care about a few thousand dollars? Considering how stingy or frugal they are, I actually don't know.
      Nov 26, 2019
  • WeWork / Eng wenoworks
    You could ask for better base salary... I hear 120 is usually the base for sde1
    Nov 26, 2019 2
    • Qualcomm humblebrag
      OP
      Even in Seattle? I’ve seen online anywhere from 105-117
      Nov 26, 2019
    • WeWork / Eng wenoworks
      Yeah... Negotiating on base is always better.
      Nov 26, 2019

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