Amazon SDE III salary vs SDE II in other places

Feb 2, 2018 35 Comments

I have an opportunity to be promoted to senior in Amazon in 6 months, but I also have an opportunity to move to Google as a high SDE II.

Is the salary for SDE III comparable to high SDE II in Google

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TOP 35 Comments
  • Amazon / Mgmt JeffBaizos
    Wait for promotion if you’re confident it will happen. Promotions always look great on a resume.
    Feb 2, 2018 5
    • Microsoft MIta60
      What if you got an Microsoft inter-band promotion? SDE2-SDE 2.5 essentially
      Feb 2, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Hooliganss

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      Engineer at AWS
      Hooliganssmore
      Unless I’m determining this wrong, you were SDE1 for 2 years, and you’ll have been an SDE 2 for 1.5 years?
      Feb 3, 2018
  • Amazon Admins
    I’m SDE3 and make 420k this year. Not sure Google L4 SWE makes that high. If you’re expecting a promotion and the comp is your primary concern, just make it first cause you’ll enter a new comp band.
    Feb 3, 2018 10
    • Amazon ypWG56
      Agree you will be getting a huge boost in comp in the following years. All I am saying is you won't be seeing any immediate hike for this year if you are already above the band. Like in the above case where an sde2 is already making 270k without getting promoted.
      Feb 4, 2018
    • Amazon Admins
      What’s your point with the original post? Not sure what you try to tell with it.
      Feb 4, 2018
  • Amazon Sde4
    T5 google = l6 Amazon. Levels.fyi
    Feb 2, 2018 6
    • Amazon / Eng somecsdude
      What is a terminal position?
      Feb 3, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      KGvK44

      Amazon Eng

      PRE
      Microsoft
      KGvK44more
      Career level position. The first level at which you're not required to advance again. Failure to reach career level in the fullness of time means termination.
      Feb 3, 2018
  • Amazon Jamesson
    Amazon L6 Dev’s are generally unicorns so I would definitely advice getting it first and looking elsewhere if money doesn’t match your expectations.
    Feb 2, 2018 3
    • Amazon Jamesson
      Agreed in terms of literal meaning of unicorns :). You’re lucky that you have 3 on your team. Hoping that team would be a great place to learn and work.

      L6 Devs counts are getting increased since bar is lowered but they are still considered well respected engineers in general at Amazon and in industry.
      Feb 2, 2018
    • Amazon popp
      not true any more. dime a dozen sde3 these days.. they lowered the bar significantly
      Feb 4, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    KGvK44

    Amazon Eng

    PRE
    Microsoft
    KGvK44more
    If you don't get promoted (managers change, renig on promises, etc) would you leave for Google? If so, leave now.

    Never stay in a job based on the expectation of a promotion, because there are no consequences to those who control it. When asked why you're leaving, tell them they should have moved faster.

    As to salary, take your total comp and increase by 20% and make Google match/exceed that. SDE 3 promos at Amazon are a 10% TC increase.

    IMHO Google is an all around better place to be. They have bad apples like everyone else but their bar is generally higher and they are way less tolerant of the sociopaths and psychopaths that Amazon celebrates in management. Do know that they value true technical competence though, and the politicking skills you learned at Amazon will be less useful. You will have to get out your algorithms textbook again.
    Feb 3, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng somecsdude
      There’s never a fixed x% TC in promo, it depends on your current TC comparing to the band.

      And I’d go for the promo. No brainer.
      Feb 3, 2018
  • SEVENROOMS / Eng DEADB33F
    What level? Google SWE II is Amazon SDE I because if some kgeacy weirdness.
    Feb 2, 2018 0
  • Amazon iAlexa
    What is SDE 2 in Google?
    T4, T5, T6??
    Your post confused me
    Feb 2, 2018 3
    • Lyft NormanP
      T5 is senior and not sde2
      Feb 2, 2018
    • Google trulyno1
      Sde2 is t4
      Feb 6, 2018

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