Amazon SDE2 offer evaluation

Apr 20, 2019 43 Comments

Base 145
Sign on: 75/55
Stocks: 95 units
Location: Seattle
YOE 3 with Masters

Is there room to negotiate it up? How is comp growth like?

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  • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
    There’s nothing wrong with that offer. You need more yoe
    Apr 20, 2019 0
  • New / Eng shshzha
    That TC is close to $250k for year 1. Awesome. Congratulations!!
    Apr 20, 2019 9
    • New / Eng shshzha
      OP will get more cash bonus for the 1-2 years while more stocks in 3-4 years !!
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Pegasystems lmWithGir
      How does amazon pay out signon bonus? First check of anniversary?
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      Monthly, each installment is earned at time of pay.
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Pegasystems lmWithGir
      That’s interesting. It’s essentially increased base pay for the first 2 years. Then trade base pay for stock in year 3 and 4.
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      That's how they roll lol
      Apr 20, 2019
  • Airbnb liFu43
    You can get more, but probably not at Amazon/Microsoft
    Apr 20, 2019 8
    • Airbnb liFu43
      240k salary or TC?
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Amazon Jd8xye
      240k will be the total comp. Seattle base salary cap is at 160k.
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Nvidia wagecuck
      You can get up to 270K for SDE2 in Seattle
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Airbnb liFu43
      I think he means that's the cap @ amazon
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Airbnb liFu43
      You can get a little more, but probably not without some paper money 😂
      Apr 20, 2019
  • Amazon sekuro
    Seattle? You probably won’t be able to make too much more than that until your hit Senior in Seattle, approaching top of band with that offer.
    Apr 20, 2019 3
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      Yes its a Seattle offer
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      How long on average do motivated engineers reach senior?
      Apr 20, 2019
    • FuelQuest Cubbbe
      2-3 years for motivated sde2. I know someone that went from sde1 to sde3 in 4 years. That was impressive but not typical
      Apr 20, 2019
  • Microsoft Itsyimes
    OP
    This is for AWS, how's the work culture?
    Apr 20, 2019 1
    • Google vpdL58
      Also curious, I heard horror stories in 2013 but none recently
      Apr 23, 2019
  • Amazon drumrol
    Wait, you're including your master's in 3 YOE? So your actual industry experience after master's is 1 YOE? Take the offer, I'm surprised they didn't downlevel you to SDE-1. It'll be difficult to find a better offer elsewhere, F/G are likely to hire you at L3.
    Apr 20, 2019 3
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      No i meant i had a couple of years of exp before going for masters. And 1 yr post it now
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Amazon drumrol
      Was it at a top tech company as an SDE? I still think you're likely to get down leveled at F/G.
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      Yes, but msft also hired me at 59 out of college. Amazon is perhaps re adjusting me to the right level.
      Apr 21, 2019
  • Microsoft TcqR08
    Depends on how your interview went..if your feedback is good..you can probably push for more stocks. Was your stock evaluated at 1800?
    Apr 20, 2019 3
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      Yes, the stock was hovering around 1750 that time
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Microsoft TcqR08
      There is no harm in asking more
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Until they pull the offer
      Apr 20, 2019
  • Microsoft xVeQ24
    Do you have work experience in Microsoft redmond?
    Apr 20, 2019 2
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      No, i got hired out of masters at msft Redmond so upto 1 yr here
      Apr 20, 2019
    • Microsoft xVeQ24
      Dmed you
      Apr 20, 2019
  • New / Eng
    duqO85

    New Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    duqO85more
    That's around 220 TC (accounting for signon vs vesting across 2 years). My coworker who joined recently with 5 YOE only got offered 200 TC after a lot of negotiating.

    I was only at 220 TC after being with Amazon for 5 years, right before being promoted to SDE3. So all in all, that's a very generous SDE2 offer. Top of SDE2 pay band is 225, so there's really no room to negotiate without getting some VP approval.
    Apr 22, 2019 0
  • Microsoft Itsyimes
    OP
    I was able to get 285 first year with sign on and 225+ offer in the bay area (not F/G) , and another better offer in Seattle from a start up here but that includes paper money.
    Apr 21, 2019 0

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