Amazon Sr PM vs Deloitte Consulting Sr Tech Consultant
Deciding between Amazon Sr PM (my summer internship) and Deloitte Consulting Sr Tech Consultant (my former employer before b-school - 4 years) post-MBA. Comp is similar between both, only difference being Deloitte will pay for my tuition ($120k) Amazon is in Seattle, Deloitte is in DC (my hometown - wouldn't need to pay rent). Ideally, would like Amazon in HQ2 in 2 years but don't know the feasibility if entire career spent in Tech Consulting besides my summer internship at Amazon (received return offer). Long term career goals are to be in tech, either CEO or Director-level of org or my own start-up. Amazon obviously gets me relevant work experience and experience I want, however having a hard time justifying the decision to leave money on the table to move cross-country. Don't know if I can get school paid for and then rejoin in 2 years in similar capacity at HQ2. I'm a workaholic, really enjoy working hard and progressing through my career, work/life balance is not a priority at this stage of my career. Found the work at Amazon to be gratifying and in my limited exposure meshed well with the culture. What are your recommendations? Take Amazon now, and give up the money ($200k) or do my 2 years at Deloitte and try for Amazon again? What do you think is the likelihood of getting Amazon again?
Which bschool? Do check what kind of commitments are expected. I believe it will be atleast of 3 years.
Top 20 program with Tech focus. The commitment for Deloitte is only 2 years. Thoughts?
I prefer a debt or risk free life, and thus Deloitte’s offer seems much better roi for next 2 years. Though if compared for next 10-15 years then Yes Amazon experience adds alot more value to your resume.
I’d take amazon now, while DC is your hometown, there’s nothing like working in the Seattle HQ. Joining in that role won’t put you too far away from your goals of being a director one day
Agreed with the value of working at HQ. So you would forgo the additional comp even though Deloitte is just a 2 year commitment and AMZN would be coming to VA anyway?
Take the consultant role and make sure you have solid results to show in 2-3 years from now. Then come to Amazon as an industry hire with nearly a double TC. Assuming of course you do really well in the next 2 years with Deloitte. The only benefit of coming to Amazon as an MBA hire is that it’s easier to get in, which doesn’t mean that your employment is guaranteed after your first year or so. The biggest challenge you’ll have is competing with PMs on the same level with 10 YOE in tech or business.
My return offer for AMZN has TC of $200k already. Do you think it’s reasonable to expect double after 2 years in consulting? My TC at Deloitte for those 2 years would be $250k (incl. tuition). My fear is the challenge you suggested. My 6 years consulting experience vs others with 10+ years PM experience. Do you think it’s still likely to expect to be considered full-time w/o the MBA providing me that natural career changing opportunity?
Oh, that’s definitely very different from base MBA offers - next time post your TC in the question :-) If that’s the case, Amazon is the better choice.
TC ?
Deloitte for 2 years ~$250k AMZN for 4 years ~$200k Do you think it’s reasonable to expect a match in total comp if I do Deloitte for 2 years then reapply to AMZN?
Have you tried negotiating with Amazon?
If you can get a Sr PM now why are you worried about two years later with more experience? Plus there’s lots of opportunity in Herndon VA now. AWS tho. Not sure you prefer cloud or retail. Ask the recruiter to match you a position there!
My concern stems from the fact that L6 Sr PM is the de facto role for anyone coming out of MBA. So whether you have 4 years experience or 10 you get same role. However for experienced hire recruiting they are more likely to review your profile holistically which in 2 years time would only consist of 6 years experience. Only difference is I was offered L6 2 years prior but not sure if they would put any stock in that.
It all depends on the experience you get in Deloitte. If it's relevant to Amazon, then no problem in joining as L6.
Which service line would you be joining in D? If public sector/federal I would say not worth it, you won't learn that much. If not, D for 2 years isn't a bad idea to be debt free. You can easily make a move to Amazon from D, but make sure you join a service line that gets you transferrable skill sets to Amzn
Would be joining Commercial practice. In the Technology practice. Would strive to join projects with transferable skills but after experiencing both can reasonably say there aren’t many if any projects that have that.
Amazon all day, anyday
Do you mind explaining your rationale?
I think it will be difficult to get hired as a PM with 2 more years of consulting experience...they seem to be more generous with new grad MBAs for career switchers. You might have to take a corp dev or strategy role if you continue down Deloitte path is my guess. Btw - sounds like you already tried negotiating with recruiter (fellow intern here). Was there any wiggle room on signing or stock, or is the offer completely non-negotiable?
Yeah only interested in PM do not really other roles within Tech. So far it has been non-negotiable but continuing to try.
I would take Deloitte/DC option. AMZN is not going anywhere. In two years you might be able to snag a role at their new NoVA location.
How likely do you think it would be to land a Sr PM role again with no experience besides my 3 month internship? Do you think AMZN would match my total comp at that time?
Sr PM is the first level PM for straight out of MBA at AMZN