Amazon leadership principles useful outside?

For those who have moved on from Amazon, have you found their leadership principles to be helpful in becoming a better engineer throughout your careers at other companies?

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Apple cho Chang Jun 3, 2018

No. They’re helpful if u ever want to go back to amazon tho, like at L7+

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KqNU55 Jun 3, 2018

No, it's corporate BS PR

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$999999999 Jun 3, 2018

It’s the koolest of Kool-aids!! Once you believe you are going to be a “”leader””, you’ll be willing to throw all WLB aside and work for a low pay.

Uber Ytst Jun 3, 2018

It makes you hold your amazon stock, which is useful.

Arista Networks ps5 OP Jun 3, 2018

But what about ownership and bias for action? Every dev should think from that perspective

Amazon Jexx Jun 3, 2018

I find almost all of them useful in the rest of life. Honestly read them. Most are really good shit, or good to aspire toward.

Morgan Stanley ninja007 Jun 3, 2018

Yes. Absolutely. They’re surprisingly close to a lot of core company values we have and that I’ve valued over the years in my employees. Not everyone of them works in every situation - but people with ownership, bias for action, customer obsession(thinking like the end user), those who dive deep crazily when needed etc are things any leader needs in their people to be effective - you just don’t see them at lower levels , if you’re only looking at solving JIRAs and scoring story points. Once you’re running a sizable team - it’s pretty much common sense. I was able to relate to them right away because without calling them principles as such - it described a lot of qualities I’ve admired in my guys and seen a high correlation between possessing them and success/throughput.

Amazon fnuLnu Jun 5, 2018

Yes absolutely. Made my personal life so much more peaceful.

Arista Networks ps5 OP Jun 5, 2018

How?

Amazon fnuLnu Jun 5, 2018

I stopped spending time on things that would just end up on argument and no action item.