Amazon offer eval for Seattle. Seems low.
I'm a Senior SDE at MS working on ML. Interviews at Amazon were extremely easy. Amazon offer: Base:147k Sign-on cash: 60k for 1st year, 45k for second year. Sign-on RSUs: 90k with 5%, 15%, 40%, 40% vesting. This sounds kind of small. Lower than I'll be getting in MS considering absence of annual bonuses, bad 401k, ESPP, etc. I'm thinking of refusing this offer outright, without writing some lengthy explanation with numbers. This offer is not good, right? Should I refuse this offer and hope they make a better one? Or should I try to only negotiate it up a little bit? Should I ask to interview for a higher position? P.S. Alexa org.
What level? That sounds low
Depends. I’m guessing they did not offer you a Sr. SDE position at Amazon, did they?
I do not think so. Maybe the initial role was not Senior and they did not raise the bar during interview.
Sr SDE at MSFT does NOT equal Sr. SDE at Amazon. It is the other way around, you fucked something up, probably Systems Design and they downleveled you because there agreed you are not senior material at Amazon. Check this out: https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Microsoft,Amazon&track=Software%20Engineer Sr sde msft = sde2 amazon
Seems like a sde2 offer from numbers
Reject the offer. They can’t treat you like this. They’ve their heads too high these days. I hope trump shows them their true colors.
It is normal to come back with a first lowball offer. Negotiate and ask for more. Let us know what the final numbers look like. Is that sde2 or sde3?
Amazon has given you a standard external hire Sde2 offer. Seems like they are leveling you down. You should ask for more based on your current comp or competing offers, otherwise simply turn it down.
The person who referred me mentioned that he had to select some specific job listing. The one he selected was probably for non-senior position. Does this sound plausible? I could come back to interview for a Senior position, but I'm not sure it's going to work.
You can check with your tech recruiter which position you have interviewed for.
Reject. I'm coming back.
Be polite and try to negotiation. Say thank you for the offer but it’s low. I can’t proceed forward. Don’t take it personally and negotiate with positive spirit.
Ya half of them said to be arrogant , don’t know why . Try to negotiate and check why they provided you this numbers in first place ? They don’t know your experience ? I am sure you would have given your best in interviews but also ask them their feedback , if they need you badly they will increase it and nothing wrong in negotiations if you do it in a positive way rather than being arrogant and aggressive .
RSUs are low Sign on looks good
I agree. Sounds like middle of L5 (SDE II). I had nearly identical salary and sign on, but 160k in RSU for something like 210 TC.