Apple- After verbal offer compensation reduced

New $;:345
Mar 20, 2018 68 Comments

Verbal offer given for 180 base/165 Rsu 4 years/25 sign-on for 10 yrs exp. when I asked for offer letter, just after 2 weeks recruiter said they can only offer 165 base/ 100 rsu 4 years/20k . Recruiter saying ur performance is not good in the interview, so hiring team decided to reduce .How to handle ..


Want to comment? LOG IN or SIGN UP
TOP 68 Comments
  • Google pinkus
    Tell them to go fuck themselves. It's a very bad start imo, it will only get worse.
    Mar 20, 2018 6
    • Nielsen / Eng

      Nielsen Eng

      UnitedHealth Group
      135 in Dallas is pretty stellar considering no income tax and way lower cost of living. If you only care about capital in this situation (not sure where family, friends, quality of life is on your list), Dallas might be your answer bud.
      Mar 21, 2018
    • Grab Ssatay
      Are you going to be bitter if you take the Apple offer? If you answer yes, then you will be looking for something else very soon. So either ask for the original offer or walk. If you have an offer there, I’m sure you can get an offer somewhere else good.
      Mar 21, 2018
  • Salesforce FYWN43
    (1) A verbal offer isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on; (2) that sounds like a very broken HR process at Apple
    Mar 20, 2018 4
    • Avvo krPd40
      That's the point. It isnt worth anything because it isnt printed on paper.
      Mar 21, 2018
    • LinkedIn iluu83
      Mar 21, 2018
  • Qualcomm / Eng

    Qualcomm Eng

    Look somewhere else where they value their words!
    Mar 20, 2018 1
    • Visa / Eng sysout
      If they value their words why did they change the offer. If the candidate didn’t do well they will reject. HR or the hiring manager is playing with candidate here.
      Mar 21, 2018
  • Google spNJ83
    They knew the results of the onsite interview by the time you got the verbal offer. Tell them that all good relationships are built on trust, and that you can’t start a new business relationship under these circumstances. That the only way to rebuild that trust is to honor the verbal offer.
    Mar 20, 2018 2
    • Microsoft / Eng CwCJ71
      1) N say you would walk off if the original offer is not met. Glad you have another offer. Let them chase you.

      2) N politely try to see if you can get the other offer match current Apples offer. Nothing to lose.
      Mar 20, 2018
    • Microsoft Fjord
      +1. If they decline over $15k base how much did they want you? What kind of HM does this?
      Mar 21, 2018
  • Amazon QTPie
    Tell them that you will have to let the broader world know about their handling of this. Apple is such a train wreck for recruiting.At Amazon, offers are always approved by HM before sending out.
    Mar 20, 2018 2
    • New $;:345
      Recruiter said initial verbal offer is confirmed by hiring manager. Suddenly after 2 weeks he is changing his words.
      Mar 20, 2018
    • Amazon QTPie
      This confirms my horrible experience with Apple recruiting for a very senior role. Honestly, series A startups do better on candidate experience. Amazon recruiters may be mixed in quality, and ghost a lot during sourcing, but once we onsite you, you are a customer.
      Mar 20, 2018
  • Apple / Product

    Apple Product

    Looking for waymo and building8 recruiters...
    This happened to me and another person on my team too.

    It was a sign for all the shit to come ...
    Mar 20, 2018 0
  • Apple saladBar
    Which org? 180/165/25 is a decent ICT 4 offer for 10 years experience. Is this for a dev role or other? Were you relocating for the job at Apple?

    Apple started on the wrong foot. There are people with the same experience who make more and do less and you’ll be unhappy knowing you let someone take advantage of you. Tell the recruiter to eat a dick and leave a review on Glassdoor.
    Mar 20, 2018 3
    • Apple / Eng cpKz41
      I think they down leveled him, from 4 to 3.
      Mar 21, 2018
    • Apple saladBar
      Yes. That’s exactly it.
      Mar 21, 2018
  • Twitter / Eng esXp10
    Apple’s interview experience is the worst.
    Mar 20, 2018 0
  • Apple ulkc28
    That’s very low for 10 years exp. fuck then
    Mar 20, 2018 1
    • Apple YMxz02
      Depends what the role is buddy. Also, f’em
      Mar 21, 2018
  • Cisco yUYw72
    If they emailed you the offer letter, respond via email ask why it is lower than the verbal offer. Let the recruiter respond on email. Not that it helps you directly, but it will likely scare the recruiter and work in your favor.
    Mar 21, 2018 0


    Real time salary information from verified employees