Tech IndustryAug 26, 2019
Googleo_Ohmmm

Apple Exploding Offer v.s Google Return offer for New Grad

I got an Apple new grad offer for a team under Siri. Recruiter is only giving me a week to consider b/c their HC is full & this is the last spot. I like the team & the interviewers but I'm also waiting on a Google return offer (just finished an internship with google), and have onsite scheduled with Jane Street end of this week. Any advice on how to proceed? Or any insights on the benefits, pay, and culture of Apple v.s. Google v.s. Jane Street? Apple Offer: 135k base 150k RSU over 4years 25k sign-on 10k Relocation

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T-Mobile cash💶 ==🤴🏻 Aug 26, 2019

Accept apple then wait for google, interview around. Those numbers are ok but you can negotiate https://leetcode.com/discuss/compensation/298397/Apple-New-grad-ICT-3-offer

Qualcomm MqFw02 Aug 26, 2019

Accept apple for now, if Google makes an offer take it... Google is better than apple ( mobile and related services company)

Intuit 7J Aug 26, 2019

One week is not an exploding offer. It’s an offer that expires that day.

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duudjj Aug 26, 2019

This is a good offer for a new grad

Google deans Aug 26, 2019

Jane street will probably pay you more if you get it btw. Fintech tends to be higher in general (though you'll probably have to work longer hours). As a new grad I'd recommend focusing on which company you think you'll grow more. The skills you acquire now will be far more important in the long run than 25k/year at starting.

Jane Street Capital csyibl Aug 27, 2019

25k/year? Our new grad offers beat that by at least 50k-75k.

Google o_Ohmmm OP Aug 27, 2019

Would you mind sharing what the new grad offer for SWE at JS is like?

Apple s432 Aug 26, 2019

Accept Apple but wait for JS (granted you do well in their interviews). Unless you really want to go to Google and/or they give you a better offer. Siri org at Apple compensates well

Google o_Ohmmm OP Aug 26, 2019

Would it still be possible to negotiate if I accept the offer? Will I be blacklisted if I accept an offer then turn it down later?

Apple s432 Aug 26, 2019

Not too sure, but most likely will be blacklisted and no negotiations after accepting. Depends on what you want. If you enjoyed your internship and want to go back, then it seems like you’ve already made up your mind, given G gives you an offer. Siri sucks compared to the other AI assistants out there, but that means more opportunity for growth for you as an engineer and more impact even as a junior engineer (and also means the company is investing more money into the team). If you’re looking for most money, JS is the obvious choice. You’ll make bank there, especially as you progress in your career there. And you get to live in NYC, which is a lot nicer for young professionals (especially males).

Cisco sidwj$ Aug 26, 2019

I would tell the recruiter that you’re sad that you won’t be able to work for them because of a couple of weeks timing issue, but thanks for the opportunity. If they let you walk away over a few weeks they probably aren’t worth working for.

T-Mobile cash💶 ==🤴🏻 Aug 26, 2019

New grad is competitive. They have tons of people in waitlist. If you dont take it, others will.

Microsoft ogoz Aug 26, 2019

Email Google and Jane Street recruiters, stressing you have deadline and ask for counter offers asap

Google G-* Aug 26, 2019

I would pick one between Google and Jane Street (of kind) Google return offer takes long, up to 60 days, maybe not including team matching. Lol. I guessed you already passed the two conversion interviews? Jane Street (of kind) interviews are a little different from high tech ones, but worth trying. Even you don’t make it this time, you can always try other HFT/HF companies or get back to high tech.

Apple qcnwo Aug 26, 2019

Google numbers? Apple is pretty high.