CompensationApr 26, 2018

Apple IC4 and 5 for EPM?

Expecting offer from apple for EPM ON IC4 or 5 level. What are typical offer components I.e base, rsu, sign on bonus and 15% targeted cash annual bonus? And what is the median offer expected in these 2 levels?

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Amazon Themanishe Apr 26, 2018

What’s EPM?

Salesforce abcd01 OP Apr 26, 2018

Engineering program manager

Apple RomEr Apr 26, 2018

How many years of experience you have?

Salesforce abcd01 OP Apr 26, 2018

18 and 12 for PM

Juniper Doomed! Apr 26, 2018

I am on boarding as SW EPM with 11-12yrs experience, was told IC4 base range $135k - $190k with median $165k, max $160k RSU over 4yrs, vesting every 6months, none to $20k sign on. No target bonuses, based on performance, ranges $50k to $150k (split across cash + rsu refreshers). (Some ppl say you can negotiate, but good luck if you can squeeze anything out of Recruiter. I landed at median for base and max for RSU & signon) IC4 is a very wide band, and unless you were told or know you were interviewing for IC5, it wont happen. With new Cal laws you can ask your recruiter for comp range (if it is IC5). Post back how it goes, if ranges are any different for IC4 EPM and what you were able to negotiate. Good luck.

Apple F🧛‍♂️NG Apr 27, 2018

👆this! Except , as EPM you should expect ICT4 (IC Technical is offered for engg orgs incl. infamous IS&T). ICT4 range is $147K-$217K I know that’s very large and ICT4 can be your terminal level. It’s peculiar that you were told all this information while on boarding . I gathered this via Glassdoor/Blind 😏

Juniper Doomed! Apr 27, 2018

Yup, sorry i wanted to refer to ICT (missed the T). Its the new California law, recruiter cant ask you what you make and are obligated to disclose the comp ranges and median.

Salesforce abcd01 OP Apr 27, 2018

Thank you both .. will post my numbers if I get the offer ..

Apple rzmM47 Apr 27, 2018

350 or bust

Salesforce abcd01 OP Apr 27, 2018

For IC5 or 4 ?

Apple myMX36 Apr 27, 2018

EPMs should simply pay the company to work there. Such useless and annoying people

Salesforce abcd01 OP Apr 27, 2018

Valuable input .. will help in my decision making if at all apple decide to be kind to me ..

Amazon Themanishe Apr 29, 2018

What differentiates IC4 from 5?

Duo Security secguy Apr 29, 2018

I’d really like info for this too. I just got an IC5 offer for 140k/120k/~25% commission target in the sales org for a Consulting Engineer role (not selling). Supposedly the max at this level. Does this sound right??

Salesforce abcd01 OP Apr 29, 2018

RSU?

Duo Security secguy Apr 29, 2018

$120k ( /4) is the initial offer.

Nvidia NPhh7 May 18, 2019

OP did you get the final offer? How much was it and was it ICT4 or ICT5?