Apple (high) ICT4 vs FB E5

Nov 26, 2019 21 Comments

I have gotten verbal offers from both at the levels mentioned in the headline. No comp numbers yet though. Apple has a company-wide shutdown for Thanksgiving and Facebook said they would come back with comp numbers next week.

Now, I've a fairly good idea of the of the kind of comp I maybe offered from both companies (thanks Blind!). The things that I'm a bit worried about are:

i) The WLB situation at FB.
ii) Relatively less TC at Apple (I would say it's about 50% less) than FB.

Also, I've a lot of respect for FB and Google for pushing the technological boundaries (think BigTable, Spanner, Truetime, Cassandra, Katran, QUIC, data center tools and techniques, and so on and so forth). That makes me want to go for Facebook to be able to work in cutting edge technically innovative products.

Apple on the other hand, while their products are superb, aren't really pioneering as much in technical innovations as FB.

Would someone from these companies be able to help me make a decision for one vs the other?

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TOP 21 Comments
  • Snapchat 🐨 koala
    When "have" has its own meaning you are not supposed to write "I've" 😂😂

    What you said about cutting edge technology really depends on the group you'll be landing. If TC is that much difference I'd go for FB. Also I can't agree on the claim that Apple is not pioneering tech innovation. They are solving drastically different problems.
    Nov 26, 2019 1
    • Intuit
      prelude

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      preludemore
      Agreed. : i've an Idea. I have an idea.
      Nov 27, 2019
  • Google spcex
    Cutting edge innovative products at fb!!! 😂😂😂😂
    Nov 26, 2019 4
    • Squarespace SNqn44
      OP
      Mostly products and tools related to networking and distributed systems.
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Google spcex
      Lol. Infra at fb is pathetic. Go to Google of you are interested in infra.
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Squarespace SNqn44
      OP
      I do have respect for Google’s infra, but FB is no joke!
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Google spcex
      Lol. I work at fb and let me tell you it's a joke.
      Nov 26, 2019
  • Apple / IT
    dnxF68

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    dnxF68more
    Apple would match Facebook’s offer. But the point is really where do you want to go ?

    ALWAYS talk to both the hiring managers in-person or over phone and estimate how are they. Then pick the company.

    Facebook is notorious for difficult WLB. But Apple is also no less !
    Nov 26, 2019 2
    • Amazon bMrd67
      fb doesn't have hms as you don't know your team until after bootcamp
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Squarespace SNqn44
      OP
      I know my team in this case as I specifically interviewed for that org.
      Nov 26, 2019
  • Apple cmdq
    Hard to generalize like that about WLB. There are bad teams everywhere and even with best teams, there are crunch periods. If all equal, I would chase TC. You can always revisit the lesser offer and ask them to match your current, higher TC.
    Nov 26, 2019 0
  • LinkedIn nextplay9
    If TC at Apple is 50% less that's a huge difference to take. Try to negotiate at Apple they can go higher if you should FB offer.
    Nov 26, 2019 0
  • Google Mauv02
    It is important to consider if you would rather work for a company that builds products that aid genocide (Facebook) or one that is merely indifferent to it (Apple). YMMV.
    Nov 26, 2019 0
  • Apple
    fruitco334

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    What position, org, etc? WLB varies widely even in my org
    Nov 26, 2019 3
    • Squarespace SNqn44
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      Apple Pay team.
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Apple
      fruitco334

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      fruitco334more
      Ah, I should have guessed from your flair. Can’t speak on that from my own experience unfortunately. Good luck.
      Nov 26, 2019
    • Squarespace SNqn44
      OP
      Thanks!
      Nov 26, 2019
  • eBay ggxz
    TC for both ?
    Nov 26, 2019 1
    • Squarespace SNqn44
      OP
      No TC yet!
      Nov 26, 2019
  • Philips new098754
    What’s the role at both companies OP?
    Dec 6, 2019 0
  • Facebook efgj83
    Team makes a huge difference
    Nov 26, 2019 0

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