CompensationJul 24, 2018
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Apple offer eval

6yoe. 190k base/160krsu/30k joining bonus Current comp 155k base/62k worth of rsu/no bonus I want to know what is the annual cash bonus for ICT4 at apple? And is it guaranteeed that i will get the cash bonus (which is different from rsu refresh). Also usually for meets expectations kind of feedback, whats the stock refresh?

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alexa123 OP Jul 24, 2018

The 160k bonus is over 4 years.

Salesforce gsvvSy64 Jul 24, 2018

You're moving to Apple for less than a 10% bump.. I wouldn't move for anything less than 25%.

Apple Lynch Jul 24, 2018

Hello? math??? How’s is 155->190 less than 10% bump??? It’s a 23% bump buddy. How did you land a job at Salesforce??

Salesforce gsvvSy64 Jul 24, 2018

Hello???? Math!!!!! 155+62=217 190+40=230

Yahoo cmz700 Jul 24, 2018

Did u negotiate? Rsus for ict4 is less 50k refreshes are 50 percentile but that depends from org to org, that’s what my recruiter told me

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alexa123 OP Jul 24, 2018

The recruiter is playing very hard in negotiation. He is making it feel like a take it or leave it scenario.

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alexa123 OP Jul 24, 2018

My recruiter tells me that there is a definite 10% cash bonus every year. And there are refreshers in stocks every 6 months . Is this correct ?

Apple Babar Jul 24, 2018

Every year, but they vest every 6 months, over 4year period. So you get 12.5% every 6 months. Refresh can be 0% to ~100% of your base. Some team are more “winner take all”, in this case you better be the high performer.

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alexa123 OP Jul 24, 2018

@babar thanks for the info. I also wanted to know about the cash bonus component. Is it true that in most of the cases apple gives atleast 10% cash bonus every year. This is other than the RSU refresh?

Apple cho Chang Jul 24, 2018

Do u have competing offers? If so u should be able to push for higher signing bonus and more RSUs. For the refreshers, u can expect around 125k+ refresh yearly, which stacks pretty quickly. Apple is almost similar to Facebook when it comes to RSU refresh. Even if this is the final offer, I’d recommend taking it because of the significantly higher base and the good refreshers, plus Apple stock has been doing fairly well.

Apple Animalfarm Jul 24, 2018

Which org are you at that gets 125k+ refresh and what grade level?

Apple cho Chang Jul 25, 2018

ICT4s get that much in Eddy’s

Apple StJobs Jul 24, 2018

Got the same experience and had the same offered RSU and joining bonus, but 180k base, so IMO it's a fair offer.

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alexa123 OP Jul 25, 2018

Is there a cash bonus component at apple that one gets ? (Other than the RSU refresh?) is it guaranteed every year, and if yes whats the percentage usually ?

Apple TXfr63 Jul 25, 2018

Cash bonus is not part of your offer letter at Apple unlike at other FAANG. So in that way it’s not “guaranteed”. Having said that, I have been getting ~15% for the last few years and also expect something similar this year. I’m NOT average performer though.

Apple cho Chang Jul 25, 2018

@TXfr63 what’s ur rating been out of 9?

Amazon Ohnoi Jul 25, 2018

What org?

Microsoft teghku Jul 29, 2018

Job location?