Apple to MBB

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VyFg77

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VyFg77
Mar 22 74 Comments

Feel like my exposure is only to tech and it’s minutia. World is a bigger place with many industries and many issues to resolve. I currently work 60 hr weeks so bad WLB is what I’m used to. I want more interesting, challenging problems to solve day to day. Not fix a broken internal tool or get measurements.

P.S. I’m a core engineer in the hardware team. Thinking of making a hard switch as an experienced engineer to either McKinsey or Bain Capital.

How do I go about this without an MBA. Anyone currently in MBB, can you guide me? Would just studying Case in point and making a convincing case about strategy and execution of internal projects helped me get hired as an EM or higher? How does this work?

TC: 265k
YOE: 5.5

#Apple #Bain #BCG #McKinsey #Careerswitch #consulting

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  • Intel
    manuscript

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    manuscript
    You would need mba to switch to consulting. There are several skills you need to learn before switching to consulting and mba is almost essential for that.
    Mar 22 7
    • New
      ffjj5

      New

      ffjj5
      I think a better way to phrase this is you need to learn to “speak business”. Technical folks tend to be very literal/direct, corporate talking heads (the most common of the useless client types) generally have ulterior motives and like to speak in phrases and can at times be cryptic to mask lack of or complete non-existence of understanding. Working with these people while executing your work professionally is what people talk about as the “soft skills” in consulting, they are not easy to acquire without experience but anyone with social intelligence can pick it up after a year or two. A good MBA program would have you doing cases to practice , which is why they are so valued in consulting. Doesn’t mean it’s needed. Good luck!
      Mar 23
    • Amazon
      nnjutfgg

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      nnjutfgg
      Love the talking points on both sides here. Let's circle back on this discussion next week so we can build on this synergy with the other teams.
      Mar 23
  • Meta
    Kuph85

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    Kuph85
    Uh is your goal to be a consultant or an engineer at these companies?

    Also you might want to better understand what mbb does before committing to this path. Have you ever worked for any large enterprise other than apple?
    Mar 22 4
    • Apple
      VyFg77

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      VyFg77
      OP
      Sounds like something is want to do for 2-3 years too get the experience. Works it suggest switching to product within a tech company
      Mar 22
    • Meta
      Kuph85

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      Kuph85
      Pm to mbb is probably a viable path. The main skills of a consultant are great verbal communication skills and clear, organized thought patterns. Decent overlap with pm roles tbh.

      You won’t learn these core skills in business school so it’s not necessary to attend. The one advantage of b school though is that they have established recruitment pipelines to consulting firms which can make that path easier.
      Mar 22
  • Morgan Stanley
    DanceBlob

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    Just your average salary man
    DanceBlob
    Usually you'd wanna exit strat from MBB to corp such as apple i guess you pulled a switcharoo!

    What position are you trying to get and how comfortable are you at doing powerpoint presentation?
    Mar 22 0
  • You would be working for degenerate clients in banking, insurance, healthcare, pharma etc who are twenty years behind FAANG in terms of processes and tech, while being treated like a second class citizen. Scrum/kanban and continuous delivery are still new concepts at a lot of these places. Stuff still runs on mainframes. Do you really want to deal with these sort of “challenging” problems? MBB is probably worth only for management consulting on the partner track. For management consulting, they recruit heavily from top 10 MBA or Phd. For tech consulting, you can just apply without an MBA. A recruiter on linkedin had contacted me a few years ago for a tech consulting role
    Mar 22 4
    • For management consulting, I am afraid you will need that top 10 MBA.

      Friends who have made partner at MBB, slogged 60 hour work weeks for at least a decade on top of the travel and politics. I guess, you could make a case that it isnt very different from trying to make VP at FAANG.
      Mar 22
    • More politics more ass licking
      Mar 23
  • Amadeus
    UUID501

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    UUID501
    You would fly out Sunday night and return home Thursday evening if you’re lucky. Your new home is a hotel room; usually an inexpensive chain nearest to the clients office. Forget your meal planning and fitness goal. Your new diet includes exclusively bar food available at your hotel. Your won’t see friends or family. During the week you’ll be at a client site. During the weekend you’ll be too tired from travel and jet lag to do anything besides hang around at home.

    On the upside you will have platinum airline status and will rack up travel rewards to take “free” vacations for the week between Christmas and New Years.
    Mar 23 3
    • @mr_pickle What’s the policy now? You can choose not to travel? I imagine they can’t let everyone do that or are they just staffing locally now?

      Is it for all departments - digital, regular, etc?
      Mar 24
    • They say “preference” but when I was trying to get staffed recently, I had a hard time avoiding travel.
      Wrong info about hotels - at least at McK, I’ve always been in the nicest hotels in town, flown in business, ate well while traveling.

      But I agree that the travel still crushes your soul and destroys your health after the initial novelty and excitement wears off.
      Mar 24