Tech IndustryAug 2, 2018
MicrosoftwMKI10

Apple vs Amazon - evaluate offer

I'm based out of Bangalore, India; So are the offers. Even if you're based out of Seattle/SFO/NYC/London etc., I'd like to know your general inputs. Current YOE: 6 years (Years at Microsoft: 5) Level in Microsoft: 62 Current TC (in INR): Base (22 lacs) + Bonus (1.5 lacs) + Stocks/year (8 lacs) = 31.5 lacs INR/year Offers I'm evaluating: 1) Amazon | SDE2 | L5 Base (28 lacs) + Joining bonus (14 lacs for first year, 11.5 lacs for second year) + Stocks (35 shares with 5%, 15%, 40%, 40% schedule) ~ about 45 lacs INR/year 2) Apple | ICT3 Base (32 lacs) + Joining bonus (4 lacs) + Stocks (75000 USD in 4 years) + 1.5 perf bonus ~ 50 lacs INR/year Team: Apple Online Store, Bangalore 3) Indeed | SWE3 Base (42 lacs) + Joining bonus (3 lacs) + Retention bonus (3 lacs) + LTips (that vest after 2 years) ~ 48 lacs INR/year I have a few questions: 1) What is the range for stock refreshers & perf bonuses in Apple for ICT3 and in Amazon for L5 ? 2) How easy is it to move to the US/London offices in Apple ? (I know that Amazon and Indeed promote it a lot) 3) If I want to move to Microsoft/Uber/Google/Fb in the future, which of these would be a stronger brand name ? How's the Apple Online Store team in Bangalore, India ? I'm trying to get data points on quality of work, amount of on-call load, quality of work life balance, amount of firing/retention.

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Microsoft AmYe88 Aug 2, 2018

Leave all offers and move to Microsoft USA

Microsoft wMKI10 OP Aug 2, 2018

Have some constraints, I can't move to US right now. But I want to have that option open in the future

Microsoft AmYe88 Aug 2, 2018

Then Apple is the best option. A trillion dollars company. They give easy moves to USA as well

Apple maxos Aug 2, 2018

Wow 50 lacs for 6 yoe?

Intel headsonfyr Aug 12, 2018

On par with the market, Infact current TC is low. Good job on gtfo OP!

Uber ehhm88 Jul 18, 2019

6 yoe is making around 65+ lacs in market these days.

General Motors WBEE64 Aug 2, 2018

Congratulations anyways. Every one of those offers looks great.

LinkedIn InIn Aug 2, 2018

Congrats, and you have explained your scenario very well! I would say join Apple or amazon depending on the domain of work. Note domain of work is more important at this stage of your career, good salary will follow with good domain. Do not think about moving to US or abroad for better career prospects. Generally moving to US on L1 visa through a company will invite you being underpaid. L1 does not have an LCA like H1B and also you cannot shift companies and getting green card is a nightmare for Indians. Rather live like a King with that salary in Bangalore

Microsoft wMKI10 OP Aug 2, 2018

Thank you for the reply, especially wrt L1 Visa ! It was a very useful insight

Apple CptHaddock Aug 2, 2018

AoS is part of IS&T at Apple .

Microsoft wMKI10 OP Aug 2, 2018

What is IS&T ? How is this org in terms of refreshers, wlb, quality of work ?

Apple CptHaddock Aug 2, 2018

Just search on blind.

Apple tr1llion Aug 2, 2018

How much does Goog pay in bangalore for 6 yoe?

Blue Cross Blue Shield Avzx33 Aug 2, 2018

IIT?

Microsoft wMKI10 OP Aug 2, 2018

Yes. Although I don't think that's paid a big role in determining pay

LinkedIn baingan Oct 12, 2018

Lol

Tesla LEETCODER Aug 2, 2018

What is the wlb in India? Are people working from 8am - 8pm in the Indian office?

Blue Cross Blue Shield Avzx33 Aug 2, 2018

Preety much the environment is much more fun and people dont get bored

Blue Cross Blue Shield Avzx33 Aug 2, 2018

Pick Amazon stock will continue to rise but it is going to be a lot of work.

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Microsoft wMKI10 OP Aug 3, 2018

Thanks :) Scenes in India have changed for Software engineers, especially if you have a good background !