Are FANNG employees arrogant?

Feb 16, 2019 69 Comments

I’ve got a lot of connections on LinkedIn. Whenever people ask to connect with me, I mostly accept. Whenever I request to connect with people that don’t know me, they almost always accept, EXCEPT for people working for FAANG. If I direct message them, they don’t answer. Why? Suppose my motivation is only to get information about potential employment. What’s wrong with reaching out? Do FANNG employees really think they are so smart that others who reach out to them aren’t worthy of their time?
If people reached out to me, and many times they have, about potential employment, passing their resumes, salary info, I always help. It doesn’t hurt me in any way to help a fellow human! I was just like them many years ago fresh out of school, in need of a job, and really appreciative of anyone who helped me. Since I can’t get my info through that channel, I’ll post my questions here:

1. What’s day to day work like for an analytics data scientist, not core ML, at FAANG?
2. What’s TC for levels 4/5, or PhD+10 YOE?
3. How to best prepare for interviews?

TC ~ 142/25/20 ~ 187k PhD+10yoe.

I’m reasonably versed in MySQL+Python/Numpy/Pandas/SAS JMP. Taken plenty of ML courses through MOOCS. Would love to work for FB/G.

If you’re DS at FAANG, please chime in. Thank you!

EDIT: Lots of comments about the first part of my post, but so far no answers to my 3 questions. If someone could provide accurate answers, it’d be awesome! Thanks fellows!

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TOP 69 Comments
  • GitHub Gcyt22
    I’ve never connected or responded to requests from people I don’t know on LinkedIn, even when I was a student, especially when they don’t come with any message or context for the request. Stop doing this. It is annoying.
    Feb 16, 2019 6
    • Seagate toti420
      OP
      Sending a LinkedIn request is not rude by any stretch. Change your LinkedIn settings if you don’t want to receive requests, or better yet get off of it.
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Uber kPCK48
      How about you stop whining when people don't accept your requests. Nobody has any obligation to you.
      Feb 17, 2019
  • Facebook lachaim
    Don’t take it as an insult. A lot of faang people just ignore requests because they get a lot.
    Feb 16, 2019 1
    • Seagate toti420
      OP
      Fair enough.
      Feb 16, 2019
  • New yUIJ81
    You just get so many requests while at fang. My volume dropped a ton when I left
    Feb 16, 2019 1
    • Seagate toti420
      OP
      Hopefully it wasn’t those requests that drove you away! :)
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Anthem lyfte!
    I do understand your emotion, but expecting help from others is always considered a favor by the other party and not necessary that “they should” help. It’s an option.

    While you get frustrated and pissed at them for not responding to you, end of the day it’s your needs and they are not obligated to satisfy your feelings.

    Consider this, if some homeless guy is asking for money on the street, some people donate a dollar or two and most people ignore him. Is it considered fair on the homeless guy’s part to consider the people not giving him a dollar to be arrogant? I beg to disagree with the statement.

    P.S - I’m not comparing anyone in the example to the question, please don’t misunderstand my analogy
    Feb 16, 2019 6
    • Anthem lyfte!
      I don’t say I never Complain, but I when I retrospect I feel not to waste my energy in thinking about it. I could have done some things knowingly or unknowingly that could have not satisfied 10’s of people.. it doesn’t mean I’m arrogant, it’s a matter of priority at that moment. ✌🏻
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Uber kPCK48
      Microsoft, are you spending all of your time doing everything you can to make sure the world is fair and equitable?
      Feb 17, 2019
  • PayPal notindian
    Why would anyone connect with someone they don't know? That's makes no sense and defeats the purpose of LinkedIn - which is to understand who your connections are.

    And yes, former FANG.
    Feb 16, 2019 3
    • Google Woopsy
      That’s an interesting perspective! I never saw LinkedIn as a way to make new connections, but as a way to keep track of my connection.
      Basically replace the old “business card books”, and stay informed of where folks are moving.
      I think I met in person over 90% of my connexions
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Salesforce guavacado
      LinkedIn is primarily a social network to stay in contact with your colleagues and ex-colleagues after you've all shuffled around between companies. It allows endorsements to add credibility to your persona.

      It's also being used by recruiters to try to poach talent. Or by talent trying to contact recruiters for job offers.

      Normal people don't contact other random normal people with the intention of asking for referrals. The tool can be used for other things, but that's not what it's primarily used as.

      Message recruiters, not normies.
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Uber kPCK48
    OP, you make the assumption in your post that this is all because they "think they are so smart" and you jump on any evidence of that in the replies and ignore anything to the contrary. It's obvious you are only looking for confirmation.
    Feb 17, 2019 0
  • Amazon / Eng tylium
    What's the point of these random connections. What value do they add for you.
    Feb 16, 2019 7
    • Amazon / Eng tylium
      I think you are spending too much time doing a recruiters job. Focus on your own job (Im assuming you are eng but could be wrong) and naturally you will build a network of people who will refer you and vice versa. I never even go on LinkedIn unless I am looking for a job. Also some random person at google may not give you good advice. They might be low performers for example. Its better to connect with people you know in real life.
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Seagate toti420
      OP
      Good point. Yes I’m an engineer, looking to get out of Disk Drive industry where the opportunity to grow is nonexistent and pay is mediocre at best.
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Leanplum blings
    Dude you're reading too much into people not responding. First, I question the assumption that FAANG people respond less. But hey, maybe it's true.
    Regardless the second assumption, that it is due to them being arrogant, is laughable. Way to project and generalize a group of 100k+ people.
    You expect them to respond because you respond, and are upset that they don't meet your expectations. That is flawed logic. There are many reasons why they wouldn't, and many of them have nothing to do with you, or me, or even them.
    Just chill and see if you get a response next time you try, rather than passing judgment so freely.
    Feb 16, 2019 6
    • Facebook whoyoube
      Decency is subjective, I guess ! Don’t assume that because you’d respond, others should. It’s a pretty naive way to think especially when someone doesn’t know you from Adam. I work at one of the companies you’re referring to - imagine the same people who send connection requests also follow up with a DM, we get hundreds/week to the point where it’s not worth sifting through messages/connection requests. So it’s not arrogance more than your message probably hasn’t been seen. If you’re interested in working for a FAANG company then apply on the company website or get referred (the latter being the easiest and fastest imo).
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Seagate toti420
      OP
      Okay. I know two SWE at FB. I met with one of them onsite and asked twice to hook me up with a data scientist, never did. I know a second one (through my health club) that I have asked twice (and he works with the Analytics team) he never followed up. I’m not going to beg people. Getting so many requests I guess would make anyone think they’re the hot shit, especially younger folks who make up majority of FAANG workforce.
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Salesforce guavacado
    I swipe right on every girl on Tinder. I send them all the message "Heeeeeyyyyy gurl!"

    Why don't they ever respond? Are they all arrogant like I suspect?!?!
    Feb 16, 2019 3
    • Google / Eng
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      Google Eng

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      qEGt36more
      Wow. The way SJW thinks. It's so predictable.
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Salesforce guavacado
      In the same train of thought, why would a random person stick their neck out and vouch for you? Especially if you can't get through the front door on your own merits, nor successfully reach a recruiter.

      You're a beggar who's upset they can't be a chooser. They owe you nothing, and you expect them to do something for you
      Feb 16, 2019
  • Google mYEn36
    I usually accept requests from people with same interests, but I mostly ignore requests from outside of North America.
    Feb 16, 2019 3
    • Leanplum blings
      Wtf
      Feb 16, 2019
    • Uber kPCK48
      That's why you can't get into FANG, OP, you don't live in North America, you live in the East Bay.
      Feb 17, 2019

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